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electrondady1
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awh.........?
i was just talking about Olympic hockey Anteror
 
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As we all know EVERYTHING, is just depending about human nature..

This gives you the BEST news, about HOW things are getting
better;

http://cleantechnica.com/


There is no better NEWS as BAD news, but this human nature feature
is built-in all of us and this feature.. serves desire to learn, more.

BUT ?

In fact.. we USE just a fraction about our brain capacity.

Making the difference of good and bad news and what to think about
all that ?

I have made myself VERY clear and thought, what is the meaning of life
and my coal in this time.

TO make own pure energy and own pure food.
Picking own food from forest and fishing.
Herbs and all the knowledge about them.

To BE or NOT BE..
is just THE question TO BE independent, in our time.

You, can BE independent.

There is no state anymore.
YOU.. are the state.

just wondering..

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My hybrid system has worked.

Today I got 22 Kwh energy from sun and wind, here in the
"polar night" Finland.
NOT.. to mention how much you could get.. in really sunny places in this
planet ?

Floors are warm..from independent energy from sun and wind !
(My house; Built myself and very low energy house 115M2 to us old crows,
wife and me, to be our pension house. All the lights are LED etc
I have built 22 houses in my life altogether.)

Also, independent and pure food..
Mushroom risotto from Boletus Edulis, stone mushrooms made by my wife..
WE have these and a lot dried, in our storage.

Voted to be THE best food in the world, by the best chefs in the world..

THE best quality of life and PURE energy..
Also PURE food.

Herbs.
Learn to know.. ALL about them.
We have done so.
There is so much, to learn about them.
BEST medicine and ingredients that we have.. and these plants have been
here since the beginning of time.
All the universities all around in the world and the pharmaceutical industry are continue to find new and revolutionary new performing ingredients about them.

Knowledge, about herbs, it is just beginning as well as ALL knowledge about
our seas.. and rain forests etc

WE know better our moon as own..
AS you know the cold WAR and NASA !!

There should be instead NISA, instead of National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

SO NISA= National INNER space Administration.

Trillions of dollars wasted..



YOU, ALL !! can achieve this.

THIS ALL is given, to all of us FREE, by nature

Independent life !

NO poisonous energy, nor food !


NOBODY else can do that, THAN just yourselves !

THAT you know, as well as Edison:







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anteror
Are you using any wood gasification units yourself.
There are a lot of info on u tube here in the USA a lot of homemade stuff.
If there weather ever breaks here we may work up something to run a back up generator with.
Isaiah

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I am using a wood gasifier I built using the APL GEK plans.

What ever you do don't bother with the FEMA design. It is intended as a quick and dirty design for emergency use. It will fill your engine with tar.

Also lots of good info on Driveonwood.com
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Madness,
Thank you for the info and will look at it later todayu. Iwas wondering about long term effects on a gas motor?
Say i run my motor on woodgas today and then let it set say a year will the residue have any adverse effect on the motor.
Here in T USA we have a lot of alcohol in our gas and something like a chain saw lawn mower that isn't used all year round it will turn the hoses and gaskets to mush and eat the anodize off the carburetors..
I wonder if we should have Gizmo set up a place for wood gas ifire.?
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If you have a gasifier working properly it will have no ill effects on your engine.

As for setting up a separate area on here for woodgas. I don't think there is enough interest going on my previous postings on the subject.Edited by Madness 2014-03-16
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I just use wind and solar to make my PURE energy, so please
make a new discussion beginning about that woodgas..

Today was very windy and I got 47Kwh from my wind and solar hybrid system.

I have not not burned ANY wood in this winter, because it has been so windy
and stormy.

I got PURE energy from my hybrid system;

-January -14 = 789Kwh
-February -14 = 827Kwh

Now on March it has been very windy and sunny and I have got
556kwh to date 16.3-14

When I am writing this and looked my energy meter, power is coming in
with wind, now in the night with 30-120Amp charging power, to my 24V
system.

Whole the time power is now going, on to my floor heating, because the batteries
24V NICAD 2000Ah are full.

This relay will automatically, put all the energy to my floors,
after batteries are fully charhed;

http://www.takowa.fi/fi/kauppa/1-vaihe-ac-dc/hrn-64

This relay controls my second 3kw inverter that is only for heating.

There is no need for any wood burning in my my house anymore etc



THIS IS THE FACT, in our worlds energy NEED.. ;

In the AREA, about 100 X 100 Km,
we get enough PURE energy from the sun, just in ONE DAY, that would be
enough for the whole world, for WHOLE year..

Finland has the BEST potential for wind power in the Northern countries in Europe,
but we do not use it.

I do.


Here you can see best wind power countries, in the world;

http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/20/top-wind-power-countries -in-the-world-per-capita-per-gdp-in-total/

Top Solar Power Countries;

http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/25/solar-power-by-state-sol ar-rankings-by-state/


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I have antique hourglass from old English sail battle ship,
next to my computer.
It says;

"England expects that every man will do his duty."

This IS our battle, in THIS time !

This is all, that I can promise you;

blood, sweat and tears.


BUT we will win this and after that we have new and better PURE times
ahead.

CLEAR sky and better breathing air..

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There is A PERFECT war going on..
Lives not lost, but the uncertainty and tension has been REALLY achieved, enough.., so that the arms trade to flourish once again.
(What do Russians do with this tiny piece of land.. )
Of course all the stock market players with futures are making
billions and the value of money, of course etc

So, the question here and NOW from something else and you know it.
Weapon business etc


BUT back to our REAL world and reality business;


I just had a long discussion with my friend who first ordered 5kw and
then 20kw wingenerator from;

http://www.huayaturbine.com/

Earlier mentioned as "Exmork" windgenerator..

This 20kw unit is working very good and producing.
He gets 80-100Kwh energy from very low winds per day and WHEN its windy
he gets 100-400Kwh per day.
This 20kw unit has several and good protective functions.
First it makes more load, but if that is not enough, it turns the rudder,
more and in stormy weather, with the VERY safe manner in accordance with the laws of physics.

My friends older boy also built house near and energy from this 20kw unit is guided
there, also.

In Finland we do not get any reasonable feed in tariff from small wind, nor
solar.

My friend has system, to feed the grid, but it has system made by Siemens,
to use everything to own use with the grid connection..
It has several opportunities and automatically switches the power to a big
water charger, mass heater, to older boys house water charger etc etc

You can choose which ones are the prime targets, for wind power etc,
with this Siemens system.
You can operate and program the system, with your computer, tablet, or
with smart phone.

With this system you use your own wind power, connected to the grid and
usual system..

All the power from wind or solar comes to your house and own use.

You use grid, only when there no wind nor solar.

Not bad at all

I know everybody, who has these 20Kw units here in Finland.
Also 30kw units.

We have hundreds of 5Kw units and thousands of 2-3Kw units.

I know most of these pioneers and been in contact.


This all started here in Finland after I started to write to many
forums here, with pictures and all, from wind generators.

I also put the pictures of these disassembled, and with all the technical details.

When I wrote to many forums here, I wrote everything with my OWN name
and telephone number.

I think, that is the way to get something real started, here in the internet.

I have thousands of contacts, during the years.

In every contact I have made my best, to make people understand..


I have never received any profit, this is volunteer work.

I am a retired shop keeper..the third generation.



NEVER , I have got better "profit" or satisfaction from my work as
now !

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We had a motto, continue exercises..

Now we have A LOT of systems, that are working good and producing energy.

TOTALLY free and NO pollution.

NOW we have a motto, that YOU should begin this rehearsal.

WE already know, the way harnessing the natural forces of energy production.

With good and heavy-duty wind generators, which every man can get with
a reasonable price.

That was my coal, when I started to test these, really..

indeed, the supposedly miraculous devices; wind generators.




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I have off grid system and nothing else, I never even considered.
I have had it over 15 years now.
I load to my batteries all the power from wind and solar.
You can find my systems and experiences about that, here in this forum.

I write with my own real name; Antero Rantanen, Finland.
You can write to me with private message and I do my best, to
answer !
I am retired shop keeper, wind and solar power enthusiastic.

This is how people do now in Germany and other places too;

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/03/25/germany-solar-storage-se ctor-set-skyrocket/

INDEPENDENCE.

SLAVERY.

OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR STATE ?

I think there is no such thing as..and you all know it ?
We all are, at the mercy of gamblers etc

BUT there is also no such things.. breathing air taxes, sun's energy and light duty.


OFF grid;


-You are totally independent and can KISS goodbye to energy bills
and whole the time rising energy costs, when you do this
-You do not have to worry taxes etc
-You do not have to worry feed in tariffs, are they changing, or will
they end etc
-You never know what next government and decision-makers will do.
-You have reserve power, whatever happens.., you have power.
-This is !! indeed, sustainable development, does not have to maintain expensive electricity grids, which will fall in future storms. Local and independent power.
-In your battery powered system you use the same as they use, in most demanding
computer centers and robots controlled factories.
They use ONLY the pure sine wave inverter (with UPS) produced uniform
and high-quality clean electricity.
-The life of your all constantly finer and finer, digital home appliances and technology etc
Their working life will continue a LOT, when you use an electronically controlled, and indeed high-quality electricity, like they do, where they want that everything will last and work perfectly etc
-In coming years, our electricity grids ?

-Who will take care about them and pay them ?
-Who will take care about the quality of electricity ?

-You can put in action good and reasonable OWN power plant, with solar and wind,
with a down payment, of a very good Harley Davidson etc
(That is what I did. I made a choice, to have own power.)

-I really sleep GOOD nowadays and have peace of mind, that I have done
this solution and live also together with nature.

etc


The best investment in our time is, with VERY many, many, ways, to the future of yourselves and your children, is to get independent

INDEPENDENCE, that is something that we REALLY need, in our time(to show, also) !

I am much more independent after my choice to own off grid system,
that I would be, when buying Harley Davidson.
I drive now, to my own destiny and my adventure path, with this way !

TO WOMAN AND MEN, WHO WALK THEIR OWN SPECIAL PATHS, in their life !

I could say some words, HERE also, about our decision-makers , but you all know

You yourself, define your destiny and path, here and now !


Batteries ?

YES, there REALLY is good batteries and have been, over 100 years,
just perfect for your own independent power.

You, really can find batteries HERE IN OUR TIME ! THAT WILL LAST, also to your children and children's children, non poisonous etc

http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/


THERE really is NOT democracy or nothing else left.

JUST us.

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In the AREA, about 100 X 100 Km,
we get enough PURE energy from the sun, just in ONE DAY, that would be
enough for the whole world, for WHOLE year..

I hope you sleep and think this, after knowing

WE could easily, get all our energy from sun;

-Sahara is the most sunniest place and also Australia etc etc
-Make hydrogen energy from solar power and ships to carry it to every place,
with hydrogen powered ships.

Our world is not perfect, but, after knowing this fact

ALL the pollution would be, just = = zero and only waste would be just PURE
water, after this solution.


ARE WE STUPID, or what ?

WE could really solve ALL this, in very short time.


HOW do you sleep ?

Some knowledge about hydrogen power.
Germany and Mercedes Benz and other BIG Boys.
Hydrogen power will soon be..;

green.autoblog.com/2013/10/02/daimler-others-promise-100-hyd rogen-stations-in-four-years/

Toyota has very rapid..;

http://www.gizmag.com/toyota-new-fuel-cell-vehicle-fcv-ces/3 0474/

Honda has developed this for a long time with home station etc.
Here some details;

https://www.google.fi/search?q=honda+home+station+hydrogen&e spv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=uvI1U43l DumR4AT-joHgBA&ved=0CHQQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=785


Electric car ? ?

NO, that is just bullsh*t, with batteries and 50-100 miles !!

IT is hydrogen car.
That you can drive as usual and take hydrogen in your tank,
as gasoline and drive throughout the whole night as long as you want, to get
your destiny( to your love ones.. )


This just a beginning in our world.
China has declared a war against pollution.
Every year there is more and more cars, in big cities and countries.

This is just beginning, of a hydrogen economy;

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/05/us-china-parliamen t-pollution-idUSBREA2405W20140305

Water, that we have.
WE can use it to make PURE power.
WE can use it, as many times we want.

Every time, only waste, is JUST pure water !

Antero




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  antero said  HOW do you sleep ?



Very poorly! But we can thank the industrial wind turbines just down the road from us for that.
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This Mercedes Benz link about hydrogen does not work in my writing above,
but here again and I cannot edit the message anymore, so short time
to edit !! ??

They will built 100 hydrogen stations VERY , very ! fast and 400 hydrogen stations also VERY fast;

http://green.autoblog.com/2013/10/02/daimler-others-promise- 100-hydrogen-stations-in-four-years/

SO.. forget the electric cars.

Hydrogen cars are coming and you can dríve with them as usual cars and
use them in any climate, also here in harsh and very could climate,
Finland.

There is no limit how long you drive, with NO pollution.
Only pollution is = water.

Water is JUST what you need and some.. wind and solar power.

That we all really have and can be found, from every mans own yard.

This, revolution is so simple..

It just takes, some time, to understand !


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You can use batteries to your own household with Edison NIFE technology.
They are VERY, VERY heavy, but no matter in this case.
But for your car, the energy density is VERY small, even in the best
batteries to come and they are very poisonous and short lived and made
from VERY rare metals and hard to find / need very MUCH energy and pollution, to be
"batteries".

AND then JUST mails..and stop.
There is no future for that, in our world !

You can use batteries for toys and remote controlled toy cars,
as we now have these, tesla cars etc

But if you want to go somewhere, without limits.. you need hydrogen.

Water.

NO limits.

Unbeatably better in every way.


This solution will WATER down all the other solutions and very fast, as you
see in Mercedes Benz, Toyota, Honda and others existing solutions
and huge investments.

This is the final and only solution, to our energy crisis.

This all can be understood, in very short and simple thinking.


Do not not put your money on toys..

Our planet is water ball and energy is coming in every day;

In the AREA, about 100 X 100 Km,
we get enough PURE energy from the sun, just in ONE DAY, that would be
enough for the whole world, for WHOLE year..



Revolution, so simple !

It just takes, some time, to understand.


Antero

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Very well , I set my pitchcontrolled blades in flag position.

-Frans -Edited by Midwoud1 2014-03-30
 
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Very well , I set my pitchcontrolled blades in flag position.


Unfortunately, the wind energy company won't let me play with their 150mtr tall turbines. Its a pity you can't experience the constant pounding we have had for the last 10 years. After a while it really is debilitating.
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I really like to hear how energy, is coming in, from PURE nature,
with the power from wind.

There has been numerous and extensive studies on the effects of different sounds
in our environment.

Sound of cars and traffic are most disturbing, also air traffic.

Most calm and relaxing sounds are from wind and water fall etc

TO Mobi;

Everything in our life is depending about our attitude.
SO, next time when you hear the power from wind..
(If this REALLY is a real situation?, you can write here without your own real
name etc)
I write here with my own real name and have done so, from the beginning,
to all the forums that I write.

The sound effects from nature and from wind, are calming and natural.
WE have all this sound world in our genes from milleniums and millions
of years back, in our genes and DNA.

THE NATURAL way to make energy, from wind.

IT is not harmful, in any means.
Trees make the same sound in wind and water in seashore.

People want to go on seashore on their holidays to hear the sound
of waves and the low rumbling, roar of them.
As we know, all the shores are full of peple and they ENJOY to be there
That is the sound we all want to hear and there.. from the sea, we once
upon a time, have all come !

It is JUST the biggest.. bulsh*t that sound of wind generators..


I have visited many times to my friend, who lives very near from several
very BIG wind generators and always we admire them.
The sound from them is something very special and I slept there better,
than any other place.

These wind generators have never interfered, with in any way, my friend
and his family.

BUT;
OFF couse it will make you VERY restless, troubled, uneasy, if you are in coal
or oil or other power bisness nowadays,
because THE FUEL in wind power is totally and exactly JUST ZERO = 0

You can not compete with this, with any other means,
than just complaining


THEN the sound of natural power is really, doubtful, uncertain
to your future.

Or then go back to burn something, like this;







WE all know NOW and HERE, what it means to burn "something" in this planet.
In our cars, power plants etc
To our breathing air and to our atmosphere.

WE have however, possibility of producing energy for all us, on this earth, and
without any pollution and for the need for all of us.
Without any limits how much we need, we can take it.

From wind and solar.

JUST with the very tiny fraction of our weapon spend, we could solve everything.

But this this just, us..

Hope we understand sooner, than later.

Stone age is here existing, in our time, in the way how we make energy
and also, what is our attitude, to BE, exist.

Antero

PS
My hy own hybrid system has produced more power from wind, although it has
been very sunny here.
Wind is giving power 24/7.

My hybrid system:

http://www.thebackshed.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5333&PN =1

PSS
Is there something NEW ?, to begin new bususines, instead of weapon
busines;

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/04/01/wind-power-widely-suppor ted-americans/

New, indeed, the Declaration of Independence, to come true

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In the AREA, about 100 X 100 Km,
we get enough PURE energy from the sun, just in ONE DAY, that would be
enough for the whole world, for WHOLE year..

But, this just us, living in the stone age of energy.



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