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tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 06:51pm 06 Jan 2013
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the rotor phil has with fins is the pmg series see whispering winds.co
see the blurb on on their website
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 06:54pm 06 Jan 2013
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governing System - This unit is an integration of automatic braking system, controller and logger.
It will automatically monitor the rotor speed and keep it at or below 250 RPM. When the wind is very strong, the Dynamic Braking will be activated. The power from the generator is diverted to the Dump Load, which slows the rotor until it is slightly below 250 RPM. This allows you to get the most watts possible from the available wind.
The Data Recorder is another powerful unique function that comes with Whispering-Winds governing system that allows you to record the windmills performance to a computer 24 hours a day.
whispering winds on website says this so I can see if it is actually 2 kw or 1 kw from this data logger
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 06:55pm 06 Jan 2013
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u see the data recorder on whispering wind website
list output
Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498
Posted: 07:55pm 06 Jan 2013
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How long can this be sustained in very high winds as the generator is going to get VERY HOT.There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.
fillm Guru Joined: 10/02/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 730
Posted: 08:55pm 06 Jan 2013
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I don't know how many times we have to tell you ,,, you do not have that model shown on the web site with RPM braking and logging control system, you have an older model that more than likely is a voltage control.
Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333
Posted: 12:52am 07 Jan 2013
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sos
That stands for SAME OLD sh*t, you keep posting information that has nothing to do with the mills you have, and keep hoping they will grow to be what you wish you had.
When will you get it through your thick head the information you read on OEM is for their current mills not the design you have from over 5 years ago.
Its like buying a VB commodore car and reading the instruction manual for the latest release commodore car, it has nothing to do with the car you bought.
Sometimes it just works
Tinker Guru Joined: 07/11/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1904
Posted: 03:50am 07 Jan 2013
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Relax Pete, he just wants to become a 'Guru' like us, but is in a hurry about it .
I'd just ignore these nonsensical repetitive messages.Klaus
wallablack Senior Member Joined: 10/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 164
Posted: 01:44pm 07 Jan 2013
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It is an Eveready Battery...keeps going and going and going an going.....
IMO...Put ONE up with the CORRECT components sought from knowledgeable people....and learn from it.
Down the track when you have your head around the whole wind thing maybe put the other two up.
Think that if you went great guns and put three up and made the same mistake with all three you would be left with nothing.
Use a forum as a place to absorb knowledge and listen to those longer standing or professional forum members who KNOW what they are talking about.
Sit back, read and accept that the information given is of good quality (and sometimes quite jovial).
Let Google be your friend and RESEARCH. Research together with good advise will ensure things go right, for most.
A year, or maybe 7, down the track sit down with a nice cold beer, look up at your turbine and think, "Jeez, I am glad I got good advice, this thing is really cool".
Foolproof systems do not take into account the ingenuity of fools.
shawn Senior Member Joined: 30/03/2010 Location: New ZealandPosts: 210
Posted: 06:24pm 07 Jan 2013
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OOOH to be a 'Guru' now that would be somthing
Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498
Posted: 06:43pm 07 Jan 2013
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Better than an old senior member. There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 02:13am 10 Jan 2013
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so I cannot get any of the data logger on cindys site( if all other things are false maybe their new website is false)
is there any other meter
I emailed cindy and asked if I could get the new model
so its a lie mine will do 2kw max 3 kw
and its false product labelling mine has 2 kw imprinted in metal rotor head
i need to prove this to get a refund from solar energy store
false product labelling is an offence
under the trade practices act and subject to very big fines
the box was labelled 2 kw
false trade descriptions on imports carry big fines
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 02:22am 10 Jan 2013
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I need to get the rotor head up and a meter to find out
as i can then prosecute for false trade descriptions unless cindy comes good
its like the solar panels I bought of solar store
they stick a label on them 250 watt and they are realy 190 or less
it cannot be proved unless u actually monitor the output and work it out
I did this and found I had been jibbed
at the time it was very hard to buy panels unless u wanted to pay 3 k
and u had to get them in before the govt shut down the 68 cents tariif
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 02:32am 10 Jan 2013
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plan i will ring solar energy store and say my rotor heads are only 1 kw and falsely labelled
and make an offer for them to refund me because I do not want to
commence proceedings under the trade descriptions act for false product labelling
fines are of the order of 110 k
but I need to prove it
i need a meter to measure output
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 02:44am 10 Jan 2013
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Our engineer team is from the U.S.A., Germany and Australia and our manufacturing facility is located in Ningbo, China. This ideal combination makes the dream of offering first-class design and economic wind turbines become a reality.
i copied this from cindys website 1/2 of my manual is in german
I asked her for australin contact and she said she did not have one
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 04:05am 10 Jan 2013
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A Wind Turbine energy monitor system
www.currentcost.com
on u tube
A Wind Turbine energy monitor system
shows how to mange ac side of windturbine out put
seems ideal
he switches b/w inverter of different voltages /
mentions free software
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 04:10am 10 Jan 2013
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A Wind Turbine energy monitor system
leamyelectricinc1·26 videos
********* how to find out what the turbines are doing from u tube
Using an Envi home energy monitoring system with an Inspeed wind meter i am able to track all of my wind production. Using the wind turbine software along with the Envi i can determine watts vs wind speed. This allows me to measure all the power being made on the AC side from (6) China non UL gird tied inverters. I have come up with a decent way to use out of the box components to measure my energy production from my PC. The Envi system and the Inspeed wind meter are a great combination. The TED Home ENERGY monitor is also a good device to use as well for wind and or solar. Now there is no guess work in what these turbines and inverters can produce at my site. Thanks to FearlessThinker for turning me onto the Envi system. If anyone would like to send their CAR PMA to me i would gladly test it for you on this system. If you have any questions please PM me, do not call unless you want me to install a $ystem for you. Thanks
www.leamyelectricinc.com
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tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 04:40am 10 Jan 2013
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thee is another sensor on www.wattsview.com
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 04:47am 10 Jan 2013
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WIND GENERATOR TURBINE SOLAR WATT VOLT POWER AMP METER
on ebbay.com.ay from windynation
Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333
Posted: 05:36pm 10 Jan 2013
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How will you prove it is not a 2kw mill, and what will your facts be based on.
Do you have any information that is applicable to the exact alternator you have, and i dont mean the information that is on OEM for their current model mills, as this has nothing to do with the mills you have.
You have no real understanding of how a wind turbine works and are dribbling crap due to lack of knowledge on your behalf.
Quite simply the mills are capable of producing 2kw, so you have no claim to make, its just the mills will likely require very high wind speeds to reach 2kw, and on an average day that wont happen, also with such high wind speeds to produce 2kw is likely to tear your mills apart.
So with this so called testing you intend to do, what are you basing this on, what RPM, what voltage, etc, as all these things will change the output of the mills, and just because the mill might not produce 2kw with your system setup it dont mean the mill wont produce 2kw in a different setup.
You need to think carefully before you start to slander the supplier or OEM, and quoting the trade practices rules, as its you who is not correct here with a lack of understanding.
Its like buying a race horse and then complaining its too slow to win a race, is that the fault of the person that sold you the horse?
Do you think that when a wind turbine starts to spin it will instantly produce the rated output for the mill, if so you have a lot to learn because this in not how wind turbines work.Sometimes it just works
tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168
Posted: 08:47pm 10 Jan 2013
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on cindys website the 2 kw produces 2 kw of watt when at approx 190 rpm
she has a table and graph for the current 2 kw
it states rated at wind speed 8.9 m/sec
mean wind in my area 11 km/hr which is about 5 m/sec so half power
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