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mariae71

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  Wombat said  Surprised that there is no power jack, so ran it off the
USB via a phone charger pack 5.1V, 0.7A. No problems!

When I have time I'll get some headers, jacks and stuff.


2 different Power jacks included in package, you have to choose one and solder it.
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  Wombat said  

When I have time I'll get some headers, jacks and stuff.


Where abouts are you in Melb? I am in HILLSIDE, Melb Nth West.

PM me if you are local(ish) and i will will let you know if I have a spare socket or 2 of what you need, if you wish to pop in to get them.

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Wow, you guys are absolutely correct about the DC volts comming in. I had been using 9v DC switching dongles to keep the disapation heat down on the UBW32's small linear regulator and didn't think..! The ColorMax board would need a little more kick for it's onboard switching regulator. I pluged in a 12v unit and BAM... RTC function restored...

You guy's ROCK..!!
 
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Taking Geoff's circuit the problem can be ONLY in the following areas.
Mick


The CGCOLORMAX1 power supply is a different circuit from Geoff's circuit.
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  bigmik said  
  centrex said  
The pin out of the 26way connector is the same as all the versions of the maximite incl the colour version.


If it is the same, as I am fairly certain it is, then this pinout (use GPIOa information) I made for the UBW32-MCC PCB will be the same.

2012-12-01_012259_GPIO_Connectors.pdf



Colormax 26-pin is just like the Maximite 26-pin.

The Beginning Maximite document has this info. I have updates I'll be uploading soon.
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  CircuitGizmos said  
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Taking Geoff's circuit the problem can be ONLY in the following areas.
Mick


The CGCOLORMAX1 power supply is a different circuit from Geoff's circuit.


Hi Mick & CG,

Mick, the supply is switched, LM3103-MH based. CG, I've been looking at the LM3103MH datasheet LM3103MH and it says pin11 (feedback) is normally 0.6v and pin14 (startup reg output) is normally 6v. Mine is the reverse of that powered on. Do you think there's a typo in the sheet or is my LM3103 in upside down? Pin 1 (with the dot) on mine is at bottom right closest to the big cap (i.e. looking at it with connectors to the back).

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My CGCOLORMAX1 has the LM3103 oriented as you describe, I doubt it would work at all fitted the wrong way around. I think the power supply on this board requires 12v, maybe CG can confirm min and max voltages allowed on the power connector?

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There is a resistor in the circuit that may have been stuffed by the pick/place machines wrong. I got an email from the board manufacturer. I'll know more when it is Monday here.
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CG I am looking to order some CGCOLORMAX1's what is the code (and price) of the enclosures that you can supply?
 
CircuitGizmos

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I am out of the prototype enclosures. It will be about two weeks before I have the custom (very well machined) enclosures. I will post information then.
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Thanks CG, I will look forward to your anouncement.
 
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Hi, I just received my ColorMax, connected it up and got the Logo to come up ok and the cursor, but I cannot get any keyboard input, tried 3 keyboards which all work ok on other computers and my Maxixmite computer. I did get a some characters to appear a couple of times. Any suggestions.

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  TASMA said   tried 3 keyboards which all work ok on other computers and my Maxixmite computer.


Gday Brian,

Is your k/b a USB one with an adapter or a native PS2 k/b?

If USB then unless the k/b actually came supplied with the PS2 adapter it may be not compatible driven via PS2 (in this case try it as a PS2 k/b in a PC).

If it IS a PS2 k/b then it looks like a problem with your setup... I have yet to see a PS2 k/b that doesnt work..

Ok what problems can cause this?

1. Power supply, Rob has already mentioned there `could' be problem with a resistor placement on the colormax.. This `seems' to affect the 5V supply if you drive it with less than 12v from an external source. 5V seems ok if driven from USB, so if you are using an external supply try using the USB port (via a Mains to USB charger is fine or a PC connection) to supply power. Or try to use a supply that outputs 12Vdc - 16Vdc and see if that helps. The PS2 k/b needs a 5V supply to run, this problem, if it exists in your board affects the 5V.

2. If Power supply is not your problem then it can only be either an open connection from the PS2 socket to the PIC chip or a solder short (or a faulty PS2 connector), try buzzing out carefully from the PS2 connector to the PIC chip pins 80 and 84.

Good luck,

Regards,

Mick




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Excellent, Mick. I came here to recommend what you have mentioned in #1.
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  bigmik said  
1. Power supply, Rob has already mentioned there `could' be problem with a resistor placement on the colormax.. This `seems' to affect the 5V supply if you drive it with less than 12v from an external source. 5V seems ok if driven from USB, so if you are using an external supply try using the USB port (via a Mains to USB charger is fine or a PC connection) to supply power. Or try to use a supply that outputs 12Vdc - 16Vdc and see if that helps. The PS2 k/b needs a 5V supply to run, this problem, if it exists in your board affects the 5V.

2. If Power supply is not your problem then it can only be either an open connection from the PS2 socket to the PIC chip or a solder short (or a faulty PS2 connector), try buzzing out carefully from the PS2 connector to the PIC chip pins 80 and 84.

Powering mine with 12v gives 4.2v on the 5v supply but this seems to be OK with the PS2 keyboard. Powering it with 9v gives 3.0v on the 5v supply and yet this still works OK for the PS2 keyboard - strange.
Re Mick's 2nd point - it might just be that the connector isn't pushed home properly. Mine was very tight and needed a supporting finger at the back of the connector to get it home - easier after a few times. Similar story with the VGA. The mini USB was tight the first couple of times but is good now.

My RTC is reliably firing up now and reporting time/date under the logo if I use 12v to power up (i.e. the chip gets 4.2v on the 5v line). It won't run though when I use 9v to power the board and the 5v line is at 3.0v so it can't update MMBasic's date/time on power-up.
No problems if you're using USB for power.

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Hi thanks for the replies to my query. The power pack I was using was only putting out 10 volts under load and giving about 3.5 volts on the 5v supply. I changed to a another 12 volt unit and all working OK now.

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  TASMA said   Hi thanks for the replies to my query. The power pack I was using was only putting out 10 volts under load and giving about 3.5 volts on the 5v supply. I changed to a another 12 volt unit and all working OK now.

Regards

Brian


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johnbig

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Hi CircuitGizmos,
I received my prototype box from you about a week ago in Sydney Australia but I haven't received the ColorMax yet. Do I keep waiting or do I order another?
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John:

I sent the prototype box from my office address a while back. The ColorMax shipments come from a different town where they are manufactured. I was mistaken that all of the ColorMax shipping was up to date. I just found out that 11 of them were sitting around waiting to be shipped and just went out on Nov 30th. Wait until next Monday and if you don't have it by then please let me know.


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  CircuitGizmos said   There is a resistor in the circuit that may have been stuffed by the pick/place machines wrong. I got an email from the board manufacturer. I'll know more when it is Monday here.


I've been told that R6 is supposed to be a 120k resistor and it is incorrectly a 1k resistor.

If anyone with a CCCOLORMAX1 with low 5V readings and access to a 120k resistor (and SMT soldering skills) would like to try a fix on their boards I would appreciate getting feedback on this.
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