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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
I would have never considered the Maximite ( or MicroMite ) as a option if speed was important, compared to a PicAxe, Arduino or plain old microcontroller. But, now that the MicroMite is available, I dont ever see myself buying another PicAxe, except for maybe a 08M if I really need something to do a very simple task. My reason is I want something that easy to program, in a language I'm comfortable in. For my projects, speed in development is more important than speed of processing. I think it would be fair to say, the ease of using a chip is inversely proportional to its processing speed. And I'm happy with that. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9309 |
I'm beginning to think I should not have started this thread! There really are lots of opinions out there! 
It's all good stuff though. I agree with Gizmo though, and that is pretty much my exact reason too - wanting a common chip I can use for all my projects, using a common language. I still have plenty of PICAXE chips in service though, so I am guessing that I will still have that language hiding in the background of my mind for at least a few years to come. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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vasi Guru  Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
All just Basic, either direction (speedy or not): - "old" 8bit micros - PICAXE, Great Cow Basic (bytecode and native) - 32bit - MicroMite (interpreted) - 8bit/16bit/32bit - Firewing Basic (native) Access from the slowest to the fastest, from Microchip to Atmel, without the need to learn another language. That is a good thing. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| Goeytex Regular Member  Joined: 12/05/2014 Location: United StatesPosts: 74 |
[quote] I'm beginning to think I should not have started this thread! There really are lots of opinions out there! [/quote] Come on Grogster, have no regrets. Civilized discussion of differing ideas & opinions is a good thing. We shouldn't refrain from discussion because we don't all agree. And we shouldn't be afraid to share our opinions or to listen to and thoughtfully consider the opinions of others. It is one way we can all learn. Tell you one thing though, it is nice be be able to say "I like Arduino" or "I like Micromite" or "Digilent" without having the word flagged and some moderator delete your post or send you a warning (like you know where.) Good to see you here. Bill |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9309 |
Yes, I seem to recognise that username.  Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| plasma Guru Joined: 08/04/2012 Location: GermanyPosts: 437 |
@ goeyetex Most ( all ?) commands in MMbasic makes User Error checking . Its like debugmode on ;) Its a bit slower but heh mmbasic is an interpreter ! if the new MZ chip is available we have a really fast MMbasic ! I like Micromite ! |
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elproducts Senior Member  Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: United StatesPosts: 282 |
[quote] - With the University on the verge of "demolition", the teachers think how to get Wiring out of it and "invents" Arduino board and... stole the rest. What it follows, everyone knows. Inside the country, the activity in the academic environment is intense, but outside it dies because of no good marketing? [/quote] Vasi, I still conclude that the C language was the main reason for the Arduino success. C was already marketed as the best embedded language throughout the USA and many other places long before Arduino. So the marketing had already been done. Arduino just took the idea of simplified code from the Basic Stamp that the school had used prior and applied it to C. The open source design that anybody could "borrow" helped but the Arduino code example explosion came from the numerous professionals who could now create embedded C code much easier. And one of the first things a beginner looks for is free code samples. So it all came together quickly. People didn't know what wiring was. That was/is the uphill battle for the wiring design or any competing product to the Arduino success. BASIC suffers from negative marketing. The interpreted reputation and the evil GOTO have been pushed through the embedded world as C was sold as the better language (despite many compiled BASIC options and GOTO replacements). The fact it continues on just shows the strength of its simplicity and the pockets of people who prefer it over C like many here on back shed. But we cannot forget that the MMBASIC we love to use was written in C. www.elproducts.com |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9309 |
Heh, heh - that's a point!!! 
Best of both worlds perhaps? Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| Goeytex Regular Member Joined: 12/05/2014 Location: United StatesPosts: 74 |
I took a brief look at the datasheet for PIC32MZ and it seems to me to be a bit of overkill for a Micromite. Probably more suited for a Maximite where the speed and extra features can be better utilized and where power consumption may not be a big deal. (200Mhz will chew up a lot of battery). Will also substantially increase cost for the budget-minded. I doubt that these will be $5 parts. They were announced 6 months ago and still not shipping ? |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9309 |
If you're talking about the MZ's, then yes - you are most likely right on the power consumption idea. But a colour Maximite built around those new chips could be a very exciting platform. Again - I guess it all depends on what you actually NEED. EDIT: Ahhhh - I see you edited your post to put the MZ on the end, so ignore the first part of my post.... Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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marcwolf Senior Member Joined: 08/06/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 119 |
Which reminds me. Why are most vision packages written in C... So one can C things faster :) Coding Coding Coding.. Keep those keyboards coding.. RAW CODE!!!!! |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9309 |
HAHAHA!!!! Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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