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| tomqu7 Senior Member  Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168 |
to reduce the 30kwh limit in the near future, so that might effect ---- reducing punters input to grid and sponsoring foreign companies to build giant wind farms in victoria at least 0.8 cents tarrif is subject to review how do these giant wind farms conect to grid |
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fillm Guru  Joined: 10/02/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 730 |
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ + EXPERIENCED PEOPLE You really need to think about what you are saying/asking because it like scattered A.D.H.D writing... these are not phone TXT messages either, if you think its as easy as buy a turbine, buy a inverter get it connected and "BOBS YOU UNKLE", then my advice is , put the turbines on ebay and cut your losses now. PhillM ...Oz Wind Engineering..Wind Turbine Kits 500W - 5000W ~ F&P Dual Kits ~ GOE222Blades- Voltage Control Parts ------- Tower kits |
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norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Don`t know if this thread is a comedy or a tragedy but its entertaining  We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| brucedownunder2 Guru Joined: 14/09/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1548 |
Merry Christmas everybody. Been trying (very trying) to follow this thread, Comedy, never had so much fun since the bull calved. I once got into trouble for saying "some mothers do have Em" --well, looks like I'm in for a dose of spit again ,lol. Happy Boxing day -- Bruce Bushboy |
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Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
I am thinking it would be a good idea to start a campaign to have caps lock keys banned from all new keyboards. There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
It would appear i may have offered some incorrect information on the maximum allowed kw. From what i could find its 100kw permitted for small scale operations no 30kw as i had suggested. A good read of information about small scale wind turbines in Victoria and Australia is here. http://www.sustainability.vic.gov.au/resources/documents/Sma ll_Wind_Generation1.pdf This article is dated 2010 and regulations may have changed since then, but i have not found any updated reports to indicate this. A few interesting extracts from the report are these. The last extract on feed in tariffs would imply if you mix solar and wind then the feed in tariff will drop from the premium rate down to the one-for-one rate for all total feed in. This could result in the loss of the higher premium rate actually costing you more in a lesser return than what will be gained with the addition of wind turbines. As an example a 5kw solar PV system at 60c kw would drop to 30c kw if a 1kw mill was added. In my math that would be 6kw at 30c compared to 5kw at 60c, to me this is going backwards in profit return and a far greated cost outlay to receive less in return. As stated this information is dated 2010 and some changes have taken place since then, so it would pay to check if this information is still current, but worth understanding before making a large commitment to grid feed wind turbines and solar PV hybred systems. Sometimes it just works |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
A better title for the thread would be "How to become a Guru within weeks" and still know nothing. You better pick your post counts up guys, or you will be left behind. Sometimes it just works |
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wallablack Senior Member Joined: 10/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 164 |
GOLD!!! Foolproof systems do not take into account the ingenuity of fools. |
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| M Del Senior Member Joined: 09/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 155 |
Mmmmmn, all I can say is you are a lot more understanding (if thats the right word) than I think I could be. I got lost on page 1. Mark |
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| tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168 |
what is the fattest dc cable I could get so I do not lose electricity re u have to put turbine approx 20 ft apart and run gets a bit long ok an installer is going to sell me 3 bung latronics 1.2 kw inverters latronics changed their circuit breaker suppliers and the c/b is cooked in most of the breakdowns send back to qld for repair and refurbishment so u said in one post u said to wire in parallel caps ??? pls repeat wiring instructios are us till able to talk to cindy I sent her the technical sheet from the manual and asked her to confirm u are correct most chinese I have dealt are scammers latronics have a good diagram on warranty card of controller that make sit easy latronics controller to pve 1.2 grid inverter |
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| tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168 |
http://www.sustainability.vic.gov.au/resources/documents/Sma ll_Wind_Generation1.pdf re the link I found this when searching for help most of the firms are are only names no help they want to sell u a turbine for many 1000s of dollars on u tube shows how u can make your own logues from macfarlane generator was the electrician from hell that worked on my solar panels ripped me off left my system unconnected etc |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
How can that happen with a knowledgeable bloke like yourself. Sometimes it just works |
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| wallablack Senior Member Joined: 10/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 164 |
I know someone who knows EVERYTHING about Wind Turbines. 
Foolproof systems do not take into account the ingenuity of fools. |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
I tried to consult my crystal ball, but due to it being Chinese made its on the blink and santa didnt bring me a new one as i had requested. So we will need to revert to the old method of "more information needed" You need to workout how far the cable run will be, and if you intend to run the mill 3 phase AC power through the cable or will rectify at the mills and run DC to the inverters or place the inverters at the mills and run 240v AC or what ever. Resistance over distance of the cable causes voltage drop, so the greater the distance the greater the cable size required. If you just want me to scratch around in my underpants and pull a figure out my ass then i would say 10 to 16 square mm of copper conductor cable should do. But note that is square area of copper conductor not diameter of plastic coated cable. If you put the inverters at the mills and run 240v AC then 6mm cable would do, but it will need to be buried to a depth of 600mm. Until you provide better information then its all guess work, resulting in poor advice and perhaps a much greater expense than required. Sometimes it just works |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
Hell that expert almost looks sexy in that photo, or perhaps its the beer. 
Be interesting to see what she packs in her tool belt, lipstick and perfume would be my guess, Oh yes also the tax calculator. Sometimes it just works |
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| norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Go with 1mm wire that way it`d glow in the dark for a bit. Added advantage no need for lighting. There you are problem solved, no need for complicated formula`s, covers all wiring situations. New Proverb "If in doubt use 1mm and be sure". I don`t believe I said that. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1344 |
Eh Vic, Do ya reckon it's time we send Pat and Mick down there to help(destruct) this guy out?????????? |
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| tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168 |
with the oem 2 kw turbine I have 9 metre towers to put 3 towers up up plan 3 down fence or at rite angles with shed in middle latronics inverter not weather proof can buy out door box relatively expensive so if putinverter on mill may work out cheaper to buy box attach to side of mill in a frame i paid 1 k for cable to connect from pit in street had to go 250 metres to meter box used 35 mm nightmare trying to get meter from agl rang today and asked agl to stretch themself and do by 31 december the solar regulations are a fast changing feast the australian govt is just copying the uk who would have thought they would have moved forward the rec certifcates closure dates by 6 mths at short notice the vic govt cut tariffs so fast |
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| tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168 |
the australian electricity site show wholesale I MW is approx $50 new tariff rate is 8 cents supposed to match whole sale rates does any one know how the large foreign owned wind farms connect to the grid |
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| tomqu7 Senior Member Joined: 09/11/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 168 |
one guy I know put a cable from his system to next door neighbour and sells them power at 20 cents I think or lower than what they pay and he gets a better rate than the feed in tariff would have to have it metered so no disputes so if u generate a fair bit of power should be able to sell to some manufacturer and give a beter deal if there are any manufacturers alive in australia |
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