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Madness Guru  Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Well I have the first 2 layers of Mylar on and have included my paper guide. Went much quicker than I expected using Frackers bike rim method. 
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Also been working on the modified power board, been pulling out some hair but starting to make head way. Board is 250 * 150 mm I reduced the length as I have 2 oz FR4 on hand that is 250 mm long. 
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oztules Guru Joined: 26/07/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1686 |
Looks the goods, but I would reduce the number of holes you have there for the clamp screws to 3 per 6 fets, and make a relief around the holes so you don't need fiber washers like I had to do. You should just screw the screws in with no other hardware needed. I would consider putting the solder pads on both sides of the bridge, so thinner wire and more of them is a possibility, and copper thickness will not be much of a problem anymore. ............oztules Village idiot...or... just another hack out of his depth |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Hi Oz, I am trying to find what the temperature probe is that connects to 80109f board in the middle at the top. Been looking everywhere but luck, if your able to help that would be appreciated. Thanks Gary There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| oztules Guru Joined: 26/07/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1686 |
10k@25C ptc thermistor.... two or three dollars per 30. Like these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30pcs-epoxy-coated-and-glass-rods-thermistor-1-10k-25C-/390221418508?hash=item5adb02500c:g:Wz EAAOSwqu9VScEg ............oztules Village idiot...or... just another hack out of his depth |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Thanks OZ Has taken some time but have all the other bits needed ordered, now the waiting begins. In the mean time I can get on with winding the Torroid and working on PCB design and etching. Is there anyone who has worked out how to get files out of Altium and into either Eagle or Designspark? If anyone is searching for parts this list may help Item DL-CT08CL5-20A/10mA 2000/1 0~120A Micro Current Transformer HYM 10Pcs SMD QFN32 QFP32 0.8mm 0.65mm IC PCB Adapter Converter 40 x 20mm 100pcs/set 1A 1000V Diode 1N4007 IN4007 DO-41 Rectifie Diodes IRFB4410ZPBF IRFB4410Z TO220 50PCS aluminum electrolytic capacitor 100V 10000UF 10000UF 100V Volume: 35X50 10pcs E6527 Ferroxcube E65 E EE Ferrite Cores +bobbin Power transformer AL=8600, 1set 50 pcs Ferrite Bead 4 x 5 x 2mm Fit TO-220 TO-3P Transistor Pin 10x TO-220 Heatsink Insulator Pad+Insulating EG8010 LQFP-32 Sine wave inverter chip, HN1518HT1536 50pcs/1/2W Gold film resistors 5.6R 5R6 Precise 1% Five color ring/Metal film 50pcs/1/2W Gold film resistors 20K Precise 1% Five color ring/Metal film 100PCS/Lot DO-35 1N4148 IN4148 High-speed switching diodes Brand New 10pcs, CBB 475K 250V 4.7UF P27mm Metallized Film Capacitor Ceramic Disc Capacitors 4.7NF 2000V 2KV 472 (200PCS) 50pcs Y 250V 103M 10000pF 10nF Polypropylene film Safety Capacitance 10pcs 2.54mm 2x5pin DC3 10 Pin Straight Male Shrouded PCB IDC Socket Box header 10pcs FC-10P 10 Pins 2.54mm Pitch 20cm JTAG AVR Connector Gray Flat Ribbon Data Cable 50Pcs 5.6 R Ohm 5.6R 5.6Ohm 2W 2 2.0 1% Metal Film Resistor Colored ring Resistance CBB61 Polypropylene Film Motor Start Run Capacitor 2uF 50/60Hz 450V AC New 12 240 3va Transformer, rs components 10 Pairs 40 Pin 2.54mm Male & Female SIL Header Socket Row Strip PCB 10pcs 12 MHZ 49 s direct passive vibration crystal 12 M in 12.000 M HC-49S 10PCS/LOT IR2110 IR2110PBF DIP14 MOSFET power/IGBT driver chip high low DIP14 socket, square hole seat,IC Block, 14P socket 10pcs/lot Sound transistor TIP35C TIP35 TO-3P 100V 25A NPN 50Pcs/Lot DIP Zener Diode 1/2W 0.5W BZX55C5V6 5.6V BZX85C5V6 New 1W 5.6V DO-41 Zener diode Hermetically Sealed Glass Zener Voltage Regulators 1N4148 1N4007 1N5819 1N5399 1N5408 1N5822 FR107 FR207,8values=100pcs capacitor 475 50V 4.7UF pin distance 5.08MM 10UF 50V Pitch 5.08MM Monolithic capacitor 50PCS Monolithic capacitor 22PF 50V 220J 22PF/50V 50pcs 100 ohm 1/2W 1% Metal Film Resistor 100R 0.5W 2K Ohm Potentiometer Trim Trimmer Variable Resistor 500R Ohm 10% Trimpot Trimmer Potentiometer Variable Resistor 10 X Resistors 120 Ohms 5W Cement 5% Tolerance 50pcs 10K ohm 1/2W 1% Metal Film Resistor 10KR 0.5W 50pcs 1% 30K ohm 0.5w 1/2w Metal film resistor 0.5w Metal Film Resistor 1/2W 1.5K ohm 1% 1K5 1.5k 1% 7.5K ohm 1/2W Metal film resistor 100 set 2.54mm 2P 2Pin Dupont Connector Dupont Plastic Shell Plug Dupont Jumper Wire Cable Pin Header epoxy coated and glass rods thermistor 1% 10k@25C There are a few parts missing but all electronic components are there. Thanks Gary There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| oztules Guru Joined: 26/07/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1686 |
no.... 13v zener missing, 30k and 20k ???? where do they go No 1k8 resistor for voltage divider in AC feed back loop. 274 type gerbers here; http://www.anotherpower.com/board/index.php/topic,1116.msg12374.html#msg12374 all I could see in a quick look ........oztules Village idiot...or... just another hack out of his depth |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Sorry I forgot to put the zener in, the other resistors came in a pack that had a number of other values I wanted. I was working off Clockmans list but a lot of the names where different and values such as 0.6W resistors and a 7k6 resistor. I tried the gerber files but turned into mess, I will have another go at it. There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| oztules Guru Joined: 26/07/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1686 |
Grogster got them to work apparently, he may be able to export them to something you can use directly. He also got the pcb files undone too . ............oztules Village idiot...or... just another hack out of his depth |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
I was able to import them into Sprint Layout. I am not sure what you mean by my undoing the PCB files...... 
EDIT: Here is the import: 
I don't have any Excellon drill data file, so the holes are not defined, but I can alter that myself. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Hi Grogster, Are you able to export as Eagle? would be very helpful, there is a later version 80109f of the PCB. There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
Sprint Layout can only export to Gerber or Isolation Milling files(HPGL, *plt). Not sure if that is of any help? Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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Clockmanfr Guru Joined: 23/10/2015 Location: FrancePosts: 429 |
I could have sworn that I posted here somewhere. My Original files are TARGET PCB software, small commercial purchase licence Febuary this year. Any way, here is a zipped folder for the double sided OzControl Board 10, These are all RS-274-X Gerber files, except the drill hole. This folder is ready for the PCB manufacturer, and in there requested Format, I think. http://www.shenzhen2u.com/PCB Grogster, there is a Link 5v to 5v that is not blue on your import double sided board, if not a double sided board just single then add links on the top. 2016-06-23_105636_OzCntrl10_2.zip These Gerber files can be viewed with the Free 'GC-prevue' Gerber file viewer, just import each Gerber file, and it even shows the Drill hole file. Trust this helps Gary. ? Everything is possible, just give me time. 3 HughP's 3.7m Wind T's (14 years). 5kW PV on 3 Trackers, (10 yrs). 21kW PV AC coupled SH GTI's. OzInverter created Grid. 1300ah 48v. |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
Your Gerber set and drill data imports fine - holes and all. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Thanks for the help, The software I am trying to use (Designspark) won't do it, might have to redo it from scratch. Making progress with the power PCB. 
Gary There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Making progress with the PCB, need to check for errors. I will do that when I am not so sleepy, but I pretty sure it is right. 
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| oztules Guru Joined: 26/07/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1686 |
Not enough definition to say if correct or not, but wow the gap between the screws and the fet bodies is pretty skinny.... if I am reading it right. Did you leave room on the solder mask ( if commercially done) for the wires to be soldered onto the board for the 4 termination wiring areas. ( 24 points?) I used 4mmsq solar wire stripped to the inner sheath and figured 6 wires for each should do it... they are only short. ......oztules Village idiot...or... just another hack out of his depth |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Hi Oztules, There is 40mm from centre to centre and a T220 is 10mm wide so should be room to spare, I am planning to use 3mm screws. I have kept the legs well spread as per the design Clockman is using. The area shown on the board is actually 18 mm wide so there is 4 mm spare each side of what you see on there. After look at it with fresh eye's today I have rerouted some tracks and widened most of them. Biggest change was to get the track away from the screw heads on the right edge. Here is a higher res version with updates 
edit The file has been downsized. 
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yahoo2 Guru Joined: 05/04/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1166 |
if you turn the wide image 90 degrees and save it as a gif the 4M will let you post a very tall 1024 pixel wide image. I'm confused, no wait... maybe I'm not... |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Thanks Yahoo. Oz, no plans for commercial production of the boards, I will just make my own. Dots in the back ground are 5 mm apart, will give some idea of scale. I am using design spark if any one is interested. Yes plenty of room for soldering on wires, I could leave pads etc to look pretty but no need. Won't have any girls in bikini's holding it like the inverters on ebay either unfortunately. 
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