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| anteror Senior Member  Joined: 06/10/2009 Location: FinlandPosts: 189 |
Thank you Norcold ! I hope ! you get good catches of mushrooms ! My wife makes the best risotto I know, so you must ask her.. I also like very much cooking and its also my passion. We dry all our mushrooms, with fan-assisted oven, or in our Sauna. Drying keeps all the aromas and flavours. Now there is a season of plenty for these mushrooms here; Wetland chanterelle. Do you have these ? The autumn begin here with very strong winds and I have got energy in 6 day period over 300kwh 
It has been also very sunny in some days, so with my hybrid system I have loaded to my floor heating over 200Kwh energy, in 6 days period. My concrete floor is 30-40Cm(12-16 inch) thick. I made it so, that I can store energy, with wind and solar. My house is very low energy house and I have self built it with my wife. I have built altogether 22 houses during my life. This latest is the best ! Heating in these latitudes needs the most energy. When it is very windy and it is.. I can store energy for long periods of time. You can see weather conditions here; http://ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/saa/Kustavi "Tuuli" means wind. If you click over the graph "tuuli" = wind, you can find the average windspeed. It is updated every 15-30 minutes. My average windspeed has been over 10M/s (23mph) for 6 days now. Oceans are getting warmer and warmer. They are the power source for winds. Antero |
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norcold Guru  Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
The wife and I, like you are fully off-grid(48v system inverted to 240v), because we live in sunny north Queensland Australia (250 plus sunny days/year), we rely on solar panels with 3 small wind turbines and solar hot water. Our temperature goes from 40C to 5C thus heating is not an issue. We use ceiling fans for cooling We freeze our mushrooms for storage, our mushrooms are much different to yours, will take a photo this season and attach to this thread. Wetland chanterelle, I am not familiar with these. We do a fair amount of fishing for the tropical Barramundi they are an impressive fish, with a small head thus very good fillets and good eating. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| anteror Senior Member Joined: 06/10/2009 Location: FinlandPosts: 189 |
Thank you, Norcold again.. So, you have taken the power from wind and solar, to use, in your house, also !! Please put some photos of your wingenerators and solar systems etc Also from your mushrooms etc Also, who do I.. have to kill, to taste your grilled or smoked Barramundi ? We live in very different environments, but we have the same coal
These are the most prolific mushsrooms here, what I meant. Google translation was bad.. this is more accurate; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craterellus_tubaeformis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craterellus_lutescens Treasusers from the forest, but also from my own yard I got altogether with my hybrid system 734Kwh energy in september 2013
Floors are warm and I could store energy several hundreds of kilowathours to them. Also in past years, before this system; When the average temperature got under 5-10C, I had to burn wood in my stove. NOW I havent burn any wood, to heat heat my house. My sauna; before I burnt a lot of wood in the sauna, to also warm the water. Now we can go the shower any time and all the energy for warm water has become from wind and solar. Now I use just a fraction of wood, what before to warm the sauna. Sauna.. is the best thing, when you come from long forest hike. My electric stove; I connected it to work with one phase. So.. all the food we coke and bake in the oven.. all the energy also from wind and sun. This is just, that I wanted. Very easy and all the energy comes from my own yard 
In my age.. I will not want run anymore.. all the time to the woodshed.. 
I will rather go the forest and collect really pure treasurs from the forest. OR go to the nearest town to feast in a good restaurant etc Energy problem.. is solved 
Antero PS There was a moment of dead calm between two storms. Sun was shining for a litle moment and my wife Sari Rantanen took photo about that. It was very ghostly moment.. Here you can see; 
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| anteror Senior Member Joined: 06/10/2009 Location: FinlandPosts: 189 |
There is a lot of writing here in Finland about getting out of from the whole system..to be totally independent, from the state, too. People want to withdraw from society. I have wrote to those forums too. I have wrote in a reverse sence about this and asked; What would be the matter, to join you back ? In Germany they have found a way to join people and society back together
They made a decission, to totally abandon nuclear power. Then they made decission to give a good feed in tarif for everybody, who install solar/wind power. Decentralized energy production system, where all the citizens can participate, to produce clean energy
What, is better than this ? The feed in tarif is so good, that you really can earn good, by installing solar power to your roof, or wind power in your yard. This also balances the social differences and makes the solar producing neighbours, communities, back together, to share their experiences etc That was a moment of instant improvement and healed the whole society ! Now, they have created jobs and a LOT of them.. Reseach financing for this matter, is the biggest in this world now and more is coming.. Electric cars too etc German quality. They really have realized, that this is just a short moment of "oil paradice" short lived now and this is just peak oil moment, now. I think, this is very serios matter, in our time, in many ways. Social peace and safety, in our societies ? Germany !, has REALLY showed us all, how to solve. They do not produce energy with Russian roulette..
If, there is not hope.. Hope, REALLY is the BEST medicine. Antero PS Now, there is a solar system installed in every 4 minutes in the USA; http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/22/solar-system-installed-i n-us-every-4-minutes/ More, is coming very soon.. |
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| anteror Senior Member Joined: 06/10/2009 Location: FinlandPosts: 189 |
We all should, RIGHT NOW realize and understant all this; Planet earth is just a limited spaceship, in which we all live. It is a very special place. All the other creatures and plants etc have real connection to the nature and have evolved millions/billions of yers here. I could say and write.. much more. But, I only ask this; IS ? this what WE "humans" are now, the best, or the worse, possibility, for substance awareness ? From the spaceship, called Earth Antero |
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Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
Sounds like someome has been picking the wrong mushrooms again. Stay away from the ones with purple stems. Sometimes it just works |
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Dragonfly Newbie  Joined: 25/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 17 |
Hello Antero, I have been following your posts with much interest and appreciate what you are doing. I do share your sentiments about the consumption of our limited resources on Earth. You practice what many people would dearly like to do, but are either too afraid, don't know how, or too used to the conventional style of living. I am one of the last category. I shall be following your posts... Kind regards Waste not... |
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| norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Yes I wonder and ask the question, Is not our technology, our machines, our vehicles etc all part of nature? We enjoy the "independence" of being off-grid, but it requires mans technology to do so. Do we shun these advancements, or embrace them? The wets on the way in NQ, feeds of field mushrooms are coming. Nice fillet of barra, lightly crumbed, cooked to a golden brown, in a very small amount of Ghee, for supper tonight. Glass of OZ port. Wouldn`t be dead for quids!!! We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| anteror Senior Member Joined: 06/10/2009 Location: FinlandPosts: 189 |
Here in Finland we had the worst storm, not for century, but for millennium ! The storm was named as "Eino". It left over 250 000 households without power, that is 25% of all people living here are without power(population 5 million and 4 people in a household). The same storm made a lot and even more damage in our neihgbour countries, in Sweden and in Norway. Very amusing and bizarre in this matter.. the news coverage in our main medias in tv and radio, about all this here 
because they do not say, what you really can read all about this, in the internet and all the REAL facts, that you can actually find from energy companies website and from the maintenance pages of the fault statistics pages etc So these all numbers are fictional, 50% or more of all uss here are without power ! My windgenerator made a new record and I have power and all my floors are VERY warm. I do not have to burn ANY wood to make power for heating for a very long time !!
My batteries are charged to the upper limit and I have reserve power enough, for a long time. I have now, at least 60-80Kwh reserve power in my batteries.(2000Ah Nicad 24V) What.. REALLY  must happen, that we believe in the climate change ?
That is the question we are discusing here in many very forums. Is it then when all the trees are down after a storm, OR what ?? My wind turbine warranty is for 52M/s winds = 116,32 Mph But I think and I know, very soon anything is NOT enough, if we ALLTOGETHER do not make really fast.. and really dramatic changes in our world. ALL the oceans are getting warmer and warmer, they are the "battery" for storms. BUT; When the permafrost in Siberia(which really is a VERY BIG AREA), begins to melt, methane = ! SO.. litle time and so much TO act. That, really IS !! the question to BE, or NOT TO be. Antero |
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isaiah Guru Joined: 25/12/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 303 |
Antero, Here in lower Michigan USA we had one of the worst storms I can ever remember! Lightning rain and very hi winds near by area's had Tornado's! We were out of grid power for 5hrs. and some they don't know when they will get pwr back. Earlier this week out temperature was in the teens F to day it was 61 deg F. The media acted like this was normal for this time of year.Im 66 yrs and never remember this kind of storm! The temperature is up and down every day. Yes somebody it controlling the weather!! Isaiah URL=http://www.motherearthnews.com/Renewable-Energy/1973-11- 01/The-Plowboy-Interview.aspx>The Plowboy Interview[/URL> |
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| MOBI Guru Joined: 02/12/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 819 |
It all sounds doom and gloom, I agree. I also agree that mankind is largely responsible for the alteration to our atmosphere from whence comes our weather. I personally don't think that our climate is changing as much as we are experiencing weather extremes. What is going to be done about it? As long as we have industrialising countries such as China and India not to mention the emerging "third world" African and South American countries, the answer is NOTHING! In the mean time, to keep on topic, my 500watt downwind Chinese OEM wind turbine that Downwind converted to up wind technology is plugging along nicely although it spends much of its time either shut off or in dump mode because the batteries are full from the RAPS and local (on farm) grid tied solar systems. David M. |
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| norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Enjoy what you have Anteror, there is nothing we can do about the weather except talk. ( Old OZ saying- "everybodies talking about the weather, and nobodies doing anything about it") Just too many humans on this planet. Bring on the wet pleaseeeee! Mushrooms for Xmass. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
With that China has just changed their one child law to allow 2 children per family, that alone will double a country in population. Im not against the right for the Chinese to have more children, as we all enjoy the right to do so in other countries, but it will also have a impact on planet support. The bottom line is, us humans are the number 1 parasite on this planet, and without reducing the parasites we wont change the effects on the planet, so its a dog eat dog situation. Pete. Sometimes it just works |
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fillm Guru Joined: 10/02/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 730 |
I am not sure where this Thread goes to and where its heading sometimes, but every now and then a wind generator gets mentioned over " BEST LED LIGHTS " "BEST MUSHROOM RISSOTO" not to mention the BEST Wind Turbine and now we are onto climate change and what to do about it . |
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Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
Hi Fillm, There is actually a very viable solution developed at the University of NSW here in Australia. It produces hydrogen directly from sunlight with water and a catalyst. They claim 30 square KM of these panels would supply all of Australia energy. It works and the only challenge they had to over come is the cost of production. But then how much where solar electric panel back when they where invented? Here is a video from UNSW about it Solar hydrogen What has happened to this project now? I would like to know, it seems to have been shelved for some reason.  There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
So hydrogen is the answer to the worlds problem? Please tell me where the water comes from to make hydrogen, and how that will not cause a impact to the environment. The world is running out of fresh water faster than energy sources, and now the answer is to turn our number one life support requirement into energy. Sounds like a path of non return to me. Yes hydrogen emissions are green, but it still requires a resource that then causes other problems. Its great to dream that water burns, as many have from centuries passed, but lucky for us all, it was not the case. Pete. Sometimes it just works |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
The amount of water used is minimal, 1 litre makes the equivalent of 500 litres of petrol. When it is used it turns back to water so the water is not lost. How much water is evaporated by a nuclear power station in the cooling towers? If we are going to keep doing as we are now what will that result in? Oil and coal aren't going to last forever, we need them to make things like steel and plastics also. Best solution for the planet would be to reduce the Homosapien plague by 90%, who knows a disease may come along and solve that one. As for banks the worst one of them all is the us federal reserve, most people think it belongs to the usa government, but it is actually privately owned. There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
And what happens to evaporated water? Bullsh*t! Pete. Sometimes it just works |
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| Madness Guru Joined: 08/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2498 |
The hydrogen gets burnt ends up as water vapour also, what's your f***ing problem?? There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
Yes it becomes water vapor when you burn hydrogen, but in the mean time get your facts correct and look to the bigger picture than a solution to the worlds energy needs in water. Hydrogen has been a known energy for over 100 years, but why has it not taken hold as a answer to mans energy hunger, is the question you need to ask? Best you stop driving a band wagon and look to the bigger problems, hydrogen aint the answer we all would hope it to be. I only wish it was the answer. To take 10 units of energy to produce 1 unit of hydrogen energy to me is just a pure waste of energy to start with. Sometimes it just works |
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