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vasi Guru  Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Personally, I hoped that Duinomite will come with 100pin variant. I said nothing when it showed with the 64pin variant... I think nobody wanted to risk too much (though, a lot of people expressed their desire for an 100pin variant)... 100pin would meant no common pins to connectors (but I think this is what you can prototype with a Chipkit MAX32 board). Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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bigmik Guru Joined: 20/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2914 |
Hi Vasi, Don and I discussed the 100 pin chip when we were first talking about the maximite and the future there-of. We both agreed, at the time, that who would ever want 60 odd I/O pins when it could easilly be mutilplexed from the 20 available.. I admit that it may have been a bit short sighted of us but in reality I see that most people would really only use a handful of pins in their projects... Of course there will always be applications for more but Don and I also agreed (a bit later when the DuinoMite range hit the proto stage) that you could connect 2 duinomites or duinomite-minis together via serial or I2C and still be cheaper than the MaxiMite kit. Also as there appeared quite early in the piece that there was looking like a world wide shortage of 695/795 chips Don invested in a large purchase of chips to secure supply of MM derivitives. I guess that this also had something to do with the market decision for the 64pin PIC32 direction. I feel that, as with all great ideas, that paths are always easier to see AFTER you have walked them.. Yes we could have broached it in an open forum but I think we would still be discussing what we needed and didnt need, what size for PCB, what sort of Connectors, which way Male 26 pin headers should face etc etc etc.. I applaud what Tsvetan has come up with on a hardware scale, I also applaud the work Ken has done with porting Geoffs great masterpiece over to the DuinoMite and I DONT forget that this all started with an idea from a great mind in Geoff and his vision for the Maximite. Yes things could have been done better and no doubt they will in the future, be-it Tsvetan, Don, Geoff or Harry Smith .... this is the beauty of OPEN SOURCE hardware.. Is it Not?? regards, Mick Mick's uMite Stuff can be found >>> HERE (Kindly hosted by Dontronics) <<< |
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| Olimex Senior Member  Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
Hi, let me make it clear there will be 100 pin version for sure, just these are not available yet. back in July when we started this project Microchip web said 64 pin version available in September and 100 pin version by end of December, from manufacturing point of view this means we could release the 64 pin version by end of October and the 100 pin version around February 2012, so we could either sit and wait 100 pin version, either we could release the 64 pin version first and the 100 pin version later when the chips are available. You may bet that as soon L series is available there will be DuinoMite-Mega100 with 100 pin and not shared ports :-) Tsvetan |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Now is clear! 
Vasi Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
For the 100 pin variant, I will keep first the Pinguino compatibility (I have yet to study both schematics), then remaining SPI, I2C and Serial to UEXT (again, I don't know if on Pinguino, UEXT share some peripherals with Arduino connector - if is the case, then must be different on Duinomite), then for Maximite connector is simple to solve (If we still have free UART ports [and it should], then I would prefer one instead of bit-banged Maximite - same for I2C?). Of course, these are already solved in Olimex minds.
Vasi BTW, what about a "real" ICSP connector? Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
all DuinoMites have ICSP for programming with PIC-KIT3 |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Is that white socket? Is a normal spaced connector? Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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donmck Guru Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1313 |
.05" You need very cheap PIC-ICSP adapter for other programmers. http://olimex.com/dev/pic-icsp.html 
Cheers Don... https://www.dontronics.com |
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sparkey Senior Member Joined: 15/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 819 |
thank`s for that don as u say cheers..../// technicians do it with least resistance |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Ok Don, Lets discuss that a bit (maybe is not too late). The steps are as follows: - I take the red cable and insert it in both sockets on the Duinomite and on that little PCB adapter; - I take the white cable for the normal spaced ICSP connector and insert one head in the male socket on the little PCB adapter and... the second head... I just can't insert it in the also female header of Pickit3 !!! So, the cable for the normal ICSP connector is wrong as it have on both ends female connectors. It must have one female and one male. Otherwise, I need an extra long male connector as a bridge. Just to avoid too many complains. Vasi P.S. Duinomite can also work with Pinguino IDE and other languages and the ICSP connection is important. P.P.S. The great OpenPandora was designed on an open discussion... (to answer to Mik). Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
vasi PIC-ICSP is 15 years old product of ours so it's a bit late to change it PIC-ICSP work with all our boards and all our programmers, it also allow Microchip original RJ45 connector and Microchip programmers to be used. At the time we made PIC-ICSP Microchip used only RJ45 and no other connectors. I do not see exactly what is the "problem" as you can either plug Pickit3 to the male connector on the small board either to use small 6 pin 0.1" connector to plug on both sides the cable and pickit3 
or to use our PIC-KIT3 which is lower cost than Microchip pickit3 and use same female connector cable |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
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| donmck Guru Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1313 |
Just spotted this blog article on the DuinoMite http://rackingwoes.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/as-it-stands-a-s light-adjustment/ Cheers Don... https://www.dontronics.com |
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elproducts Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: United StatesPosts: 282 |
I see Olimex has Duinomite pricing on their website. Are they shipping? Does anybody know for sure? www.elproducts.com |
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| donmck Guru Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1313 |
I know nothing.
Insert Sgt Schultz Icon here! Soon I think. Between now, and two weeks. What I can say is firmware is still being worked on, prices have varied on the lower priced items. (cheaper). Some UEXT items such as MOD-I/O need firmware upgrade before they can ship. Boxes won't be available for a little while. Neither will the RTC, as they are just starting a production run. Blogs are starting to come alive: http://forum.jeelabs.net/node/586 Cheers Don... https://www.dontronics.com |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
yes, we have stock now, Ken still work on the firmware to implement the functionality which is not available in MaxiMite, but otherwise all works as MM now, all GPIOs are accessable except these multiplexes with the SD-CARD and VGA, as they need some special attention. about the firmware it's work in progress, Ken and I decided that the best way to continue with it is to put it on Github so everyone interested can participate, he proposed we at Olimex to make the Github account, but as we never worked with Github it will take some days, meantime I will post the source code on our web page so anyone can download and look at it if interested. I'm just amazed what amount of work Ken did in such short time, I will let him to disclosure what he is working now when he decide to do this, but I will just say that when I saw it my first reaction was: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW 
we ship Don's parcel by the end of this week, so he will have Duinomite in stock somewhere next week when he release the parcels from the customs. |
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| sparkey Senior Member Joined: 15/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 819 |
don will there be a release of a duino mite hand book /manual...regards sparkey.../// technicians do it with least resistance |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
user manual will be work in progress right now I play with DuinoMite-Mega after work at home for the last few days, and I'm about to write some tutorials how to use it with our UEXT modules. So far I modified Ken's code for MOD-BT to MOD-GSM and yesterday placed calls, received calls, send and received SMSs with Duinomite-mega, this evening will continue with MOD-IRDA (Tv remote control sender/receiver) and MOD-TC (thermocouple UEXT board) and will post the codes and the results of the experiments during the weekend. then next week I will play a bit with Zigbee and some remote sensors for temperature and one Zigbee-Pir sensor which we just finished, so Duinomite will be able to connect to remote Zigbee sensor network as well and capture data or send commands to remote wireless relays. After this the next step will be TCP-IP stack and at least SNTP, Telnet, Web server apps to run on Duinomite, telnet could be used as console, Twitter agent also is doable the same way as they do on Arduino, so you can make your devices made with Duinomite to tweet messages or you can feed your cat remotely by sending tweeter messages to your Duinomite box which to switch on/off relays, the applications are really endless :) I really feel like kid at candyshop, it's so easy to interface all these modules that I can't decide with which one to start first Tsvetan |
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| sparkey Senior Member Joined: 15/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 819 |
thats pretty cool i am a hard ware nut myself and i only live a stones throw away from don makes things good when you dont have to trace round the world to get some gear..and thanks for the reply ....regards ...///...// technicians do it with least resistance |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
Duinomite now is online I will post here tomorrow IP and you can telnet this IP and write and execute programs on the Duinomite in our lab from all around the world
maybe I have to find also web cam which to be pointed to the board so you can see how you blink the LEDs etc hahaha can't do this now as I have to ask our IT specialists tomorrow to how to NAT the intranet IP where Duinomite is connected to real IP address which is accessable from Internet |
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