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renewableMark

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Klaus,
I'm interested in the choke you did on P31.
Just to clarify, you used two of the bigger inductors from the aerosharp 3kw, glued two side by side, split them at the airgap joins.
Then made a former and would 18 turns of 1.8mm x 9 layers and assembled on the cores.
Have I got that correct?
Cheers Caveman Mark
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Boppa
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I have one question re that 15A double GPO, is that the only way it connects to the house?

Reason I asked was I found out (after partially melting a similar twin 15A) was that they are (well the clipsal ones at least) rather at 15a TOTAL from both outlets, not the 2x15a ie 30a total I assumed they would be...

Running a stick welder and air compressor at the same time for extended periods (making a cattle crush) resulted in a rather sad looking gpo, rather saggy looking in spots...

As it was only just over a month old (having been installed specifically for this job) claimed warranty, and that was when the clipsal dealer told me that....
Now has 2x 15a single outlets stacked on top of each other to get the full 30a capacity that was originally intended
 
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  Boppa said   I have one question re that 15A double GPO, is that the only way it connects to the house?



If you look at the pictures on the previous page (right side view) you will see a bit of yellow plastic at the top of the inverter frame.

On that are the + and - battery terminals *and* a terminal for the fixed 235VAC to my house.
The 15A outlets at the front are for testing - they handled the 5KW load - and to monitor the AC wave form. I also plug a power board in there for my various plugback AC/DC used nearby.
Klaus
 
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Posted: 10:01am 03 May 2018
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  renewableMark said   Klaus,
I'm interested in the choke you did on P31.
Just to clarify, you used two of the bigger inductors from the aerosharp 3kw, glued two side by side, split them at the airgap joins.
Then made a former and would 18 turns of 1.8mm x 9 layers and assembled on the cores.
Have I got that correct?


Thanks for your interest Mark. I did not end up using the 18 turn choke you mention but made a smaller one (from the smaller Aerosharp chokes) with 9 turns, wound three in hand at once and as many layers as would fit ( I think it was 6 layers).

I will do a separate post how I made them, it takes a bit of preparation to do a neat job with 1.8mm wire.
There are some pictures and I have to gather my scribbled notes but watch this space.

Meanwhile I assume you have the following:

Access to a lathe.
Skills to make a metal former to wind on - forget wood or plastic, tried that, did not stand up.
Two part epoxy resin to hold the windings together.

Lots of patience - most important
Klaus
 
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  Tinker said  
  Boppa said   I have one question re that 15A double GPO, is that the only way it connects to the house?



If you look at the pictures on the previous page (right side view) you will see a bit of yellow plastic at the top of the inverter frame.

On that are the + and - battery terminals *and* a terminal for the fixed 235VAC to my house.
The 15A outlets at the front are for testing - they handled the 5KW load - and to monitor the AC wave form. I also plug a power board in there for my various plugback AC/DC used nearby.

No worries then, just making sure- anyone using those twin 15A gpo's should be aware of their limitations (I wasnt)
 
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  Boppa said  
No worries then, just making sure- anyone using those twin 15A gpo's should be aware of their limitations (I wasnt)


I should think these dual GPO's are similarly rated than every plug in power board with 4+ sockets or even double adaptors.

They can only handle the power through their plug or one connection in case of the dual GPO's.
Klaus
 
Alpepp
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Posted: 07:55am 09 Dec 2018
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Hi Guys I have been following your thread about Building inverter using EGS002 driver board. I am trying to build inverter to output 15VAC using EGS002 driver board. My voltage supply to mosfet bridge is 20VDC. What would you suggest. 1. Feedback AC as in Figure 6.2 of EG8010 Datasheet or 2. Feedback DC (from rectify diodes) as per Figure 6.6 of EG8010 Datasheet. I am using circuit 6.2 from EG8010 Datesheet. with different resistors for voltage splitting,( no transformer) Thanks Al
 
MasterCATZ
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  Tinker said  






I used the big chokes from 2 Aerosharp units to make a mains filter. I know there are those filters:









But they are only good for 7Amps so I would require 4 in parallel.

What I did is reproduce the filter circuit with other salvaged parts:









Since my double stack transformer was wound with 2 identical 230V secondaries I can connect one winding to each filter so the 2 chokes share the power between them.

The 230V are paralleled after that, at the input to the Voltage & Current sensing board.

I do not know yet how that filter will perform.










are you still using those filters ?
I was planing on doing the same thing and reusing the ones from my 3kw aerosharp's
 
Murphy's friend

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Posted: 01:38pm 14 May 2021
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  MasterCATZ said  
  Tinker said  


are you still using those filters ?
I was planing on doing the same thing and reusing the ones from my 3kw aerosharp's


tinker no longer posts here but I have it on good authority that these home made filters did not perform well and the fully sealed type with a 20Amp rating are used (they look the same as in the picture).
 
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