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Gizmo

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Posted: 01:24pm 12 Jan 2015
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No I mean did the rewired stator run faster than the standard stator?
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KiwiJohn
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Posted: 01:41pm 12 Jan 2015
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Um, the fasted stator so far is the one with only 18 coils. I am yet to start wiring for fully parallel on each phase, maybe I should nip down to Repco and buy a metre or so of 7 core trailer wire!
 
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Posted: 09:44pm 13 Jan 2015
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I spent a bit more time today messing with various configurations of the F@P stator. One stator has been cut down to just 18 coils ( v:42) and I converted that to each phase consisting of six coils in series parallel (3 coils x 2).



This is by far the fastest configuration I have ever tested with a top speed of 600 rpm. I need to think some more and decide if further improvements are possible. Of course speed is not everything and low speed torque is probably more important.Edited by KiwiJohn 2015-01-15
 
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Posted: 08:22pm 14 Jan 2015
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More playing with my 18 coil stator in the shed today!

I found that wiring too many coils in parallel (it was six) produced such a load that the stepper driver went into fault mode and refused to drive it. I put five ohm resistances (nichrome wire) in series but all that did was made a small toaster and no movement from the motor. I tried it with two coils in parallel and the driver would not drive that either.

So I took the side cutters and reduced the machine to just 3 coils (one for each phase), almost no torque of course in fact the cogging drag of the other 15 unused coils was enough to stall it at slow speed but I gave it a spin and it took off. I had the driver set for 1500 rpm but I chickened out when I had visions of the rotor flying to bits and pieces of sharp plastic flying past my ears, it was certainly going very fast!

Apparently then the driver is happy with a load that has the resistance and inductance of a single coil, presumably the driver would be happy with a series parallel networks of 3x3, that would be 9 coils per phase or 27 for the whole machine.

Stay tuned!!
 
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Posted: 05:51pm 15 Jan 2015
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Re the Fisher and Paykel washing machine motor.

I did a test today with the cut down stator and found 2.6 Nm of torque and a free running speed of 500rpm. This is with each phase consisting of 6 coils in a series parallel configuration of 3x2.

Considering my earlier tests I believe this is the most practical configuration for this motor with the power supply and drivers I have on hand. Considering also that I am using only 18 of the original 42 coils I expect more powerful drivers would get at least 5.5Nm of torque, maybe more.
 
KiwiJohn
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Posted: 11:45pm 19 Jan 2015
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I wired another stator today, every phase 4,4,3,3 in parallel and it is not a very good performer at all on 55volts 6 amps.
 
KiwiJohn
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Posted: 08:38pm 20 Jan 2015
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I had another try with my latest rotor and managed to measure nearly 6 N.m. of holding torque. It also free runs up to 300rpm. That is using every coil configured every phase 4,4,3,3 in parallel. The three phases are connected in delta.

I think it is time to start building the machine.

John Edited by KiwiJohn 2015-01-22
 
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