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Geoffg

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Thanks Greg. Lou has also sent me a pile of corrections, as has others. I was thinking that the manual was "spot on" but it is amazing what you and Lou have found, especially as I must have read that text a dozen times.

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Hi Geoff

As it getting real close to the non beta version to be released
Is there enough space left for the up arrow to recall the last command ?

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  Frank N. Furter said   Hi Folks,

it should be a PL2303HXA (inside a cable) from Adafruit. I know that somebody hate the Prolific chips but i hadn't problem with this adapter... up to now...

Normaly I prefer the FTDI chips too (but colleagues in my last job had great problems with a unusual configuration where the chip doesn't do what in the datasheet was - but I didn't exactly which problem was)

The only "real" problem I know with the Prolific chips is with Win8 but I have Win7...

Frank


I have found serious problems with some FTDI chips, and am in talks with them now about it.

It may well be Asian counterfeit chips that are the problem.

see my writeup at:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/usb-communication-problem-ftd i-ft232r-1213-c-bug-and-workaround.html

This workaround installs the driver that works with all the test samples I have tried: V2.08.14.0 driver should be installed.

Cheers Don...

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Geoffg

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  jman said  As it getting real close to the non beta version to be released
Is there enough space left for the up arrow to recall the last command ?

Not in this release and it is doubtful that it will be in the next. I tried experimenting with a cut down version but, because it is a mini editor, it still took up a lot of flash.

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Just about to start up one of White Wizard's 44 pin circuits and I can't find what size Tera Term window to use. Help please.
 
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Hi Bob,

I use 80x36 if thats any help!

Give it a go and let us know how you get on . . .
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. . . and don't forget to set baud to 38,400

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  WhiteWizzard said   Hi Bob,

I use 80x36 if thats any help!

Give it a go and let us know how you get on . . .


It didn't Windoze can't find a driver for it. I have Win 8.1 64 bit. I'll boot up an 8.1 32 bit system and see if any better.
 
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you can always get the driver from here . . .
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  WhiteWizzard said   you can always get the driver from here . . .

and it wouldn't install it. However, I booted both of my alternate systems, one a 32 bit win 8.1 and the other a 64 bit Win 8.1 and they both work. It looks like I need to sort out usb on my main system.



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  BobD said  
  WhiteWizzard said   you can always get the driver from here . . .

and it wouldn't install it. However, I booted both of my alternate systems, one a 32 bit win 8.1 and the other a 64 bit Win 8.1 and they both work. It looks like I need to sort out usb on my main system.


If you are running earlier version drivers on your alternative systems, and your main system has installed the now default V2.08.30.0 driver, then you may have a buggy or possibly counterfeit FTDI chip.

see my earlier post in this thread, or check out:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/usb-communication-problem-ftd i-ft232r-1213-c-bug-and-workaround.html

Cheers Don...Edited by donmck 2014-04-16
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Don, not quite sure I follow you but I did some checking and my alternate system (win 8.1 64 bit) automatically installed FTDI driver version 2.10.0.0. When I tried updating with the latest driver from FTDI I was told by Windows that I have the latest.

My main system, as I said, would not install a driver even when I tried to push it down its throat. See the pic below.



Windows identifies the chip OK (I think, anyone confirm?).


 
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  donmck said  
see my earlier post in this thread, or check out:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/usb-communication-problem-ftd i-ft232r-1213-c-bug-and-workaround.html

Cheers Don...

Don, this works. Thanks.

Big question two Win 8.1 systems OK with V2.10 of the FTDI driver and one is not?
 
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  BobD said   Don, not quite sure I follow you but I did some checking and my alternate system (win 8.1 64 bit) automatically installed FTDI driver version 2.10.0.0. When I tried updating with the latest driver from FTDI I was told by Windows that I have the latest.

My main system, as I said, would not install a driver even when I tried to push it down its throat. See the pic below.

Windows identifies the chip OK (I think, anyone confirm?).




On my second entry, that is: USB serial Converter properties, I get precisely the same info as you.

Are you trying to let the software find the file(s), or are you forcing it with an exe file?

If you haven't tried the exe file, I would try the latest 30 version first.
Cheers Don...
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  BobD said  
  donmck said  
see my earlier post in this thread, or check out:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/usb-communication-problem-ftd i-ft232r-1213-c-bug-and-workaround.html

Cheers Don...

Don, this works. Thanks.

Big question two Win 8.1 systems OK with V2.10 of the FTDI driver and one is not?


Great.

I found similar things.
If all else fails, try:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/usb-communication-problem-ftd i-ft232r-1213-c-bug-and-workaround.html

The big trap is you have to remove the two entries from two different menus to remove the driver in the first instance, else you may have two different versions installed incorrectly.

I am still waiting on answers from the engineers at FTDI.
They seem to have gone to ground when I hit them with my findings.

Cheers Don...


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  BobD said   Big question two Win 8.1 systems OK with V2.10 of the FTDI driver and one is not?


In answer to my own question.

The two systems that install the v2.10 driver OK are minimalist special purpose systems with very little installed except for what was needed for the purpose. My main use system has a fair bit of stuff installed and some of this may be causing some difficulties. Who knows?

I'm building two other Win 8.1 systems right now. One of each bit flavour and as soon as I get a bit further in I will try this module on them. Don't anyone hold your breath waiting.
 
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  WhiteWizzard said   you can always get the driver from here . . .

and it wouldn't install it. However, I booted both of my alternate systems, one a 32 bit win 8.1 and the other a 64 bit Win 8.1 and they both work. It looks like I need to sort out usb on my main system.


I haven't made it clear but these three systems are all the same hardware. They are just partitions on the same machine and I used the same physical usb port for all of the testing. This makes it very strange why the version 2.10 driver works on two systems and not another and 32 bit / 64 bit is irrelevant.
 
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Don/Bob

Guys, can we please continue this discussion on my thread (MicroMite 44 Pin TQFP Eval PCB/Module) rather than this MicroMite Beta 18 thread.

Thanks . . .

WW
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don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but in the manual several of the diagrams have slightly 'mangled' pieces of text. for example:



the "pF" is printed in what looks like a 'hollow' font. i suspect this may be due to the text being not-quite black, and not converting to monochrome correctly when assembling the pdf. i'm using adobe acrobat reader 11.0.5 as my pdf viewer, 1024x600 screen attached to a netbook running XP. it is not impossible that this is a rendering problem only visible on certain setups.

see the following diagrams for other occurrences:
pg 58, "or similar",
pg 62, "Outputs"
pg 22, "2" (pin number on chip)
pg 19, "V" (of +3.3V)


i'd also suggest pushing the manual out to 67 pages (or, in general, any odd number of pages). this means that when printed out double-sided and stapled together like a book, the last sheet is not left with writing exposed (to get dirty) on the back. it just makes for a nice touch.


rob :-)
 
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Rob, I gave up using Adobe Reader a few years back because it seemed to be always a target of scammers and Adobe were always trying to push crapware with their updates (nothing has changed there, try updating Flash). Adobe just generally annoyed the hell out of me. If things are different now let me know please.

I may have just discovered a plus for Adobe Reader. My PDF reader shows nothing at all for those items that you note. I don't mind the problems on P19 or 22 but missing chunks of text is a bit off and I can't even detect where the text would be missing on pages 58 & 62.



I just opened the manual in Word and it did not show these items either. Looks like we need some adjustments to the manual.
 
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