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brucedownunder2
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Posted: 10:26am 03 Jan 2014
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Hello Crew, first a happy and prosperous new year to all.

I recently bought an Aldi 10 inch tablet .

Does anybody know of a good forum to discuss understanding the OS of this Android system -- creating folders for pics, etc. I have a 44 page manual ,but she's not all that clear for a 70 yo brain dead fella like me...

Hope this fits into this section ,if not Glenn can delete it ..

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Its fine to post this sort of stuff here Bruce.

I wouldn't mind getting myself a tablet too, for when I'm watching TV. Quit often I'll be watching something on TV, and want to look up something I've seen, like a word I didn't understand, or a place, etc. Currently I use my smart phone and google it, but the smart phone screen is a little small and a big focus change for my old eyes. A tablet would be nice, have it next to my TV chair.

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brucedownunder2
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Hi Glenn, Yes, I got mine for that same reason -portability ,like mine can be connected to my virginbroadband anywhere in Australia ,and ,of course, many places now have free broadband,can't go mad , but for light use they don't chuck you off.

It's a elcheapo aldi model ,,with all the bells and whistles,even gps..

But one thing I've noticed ,, elcheapo means not so good resolution and sharpness with your photos- my friend has the $900 apple and his leaves mine for dead ($230).

Apart from that ,the OS is a new learning curve,completly different from apple and windows,,so thats why I'm asking if anybody out there would be willing to help me through the first months of basic understanding ?

My other backshed stuff is slowly progressing, doing the mods to a fairly big inverter with Oz 's help and the energymatters forum. also still playing with the solar,batteries and Exmork windgennie stuff,would like to adapt something like Phill's manual "pull-down" brake on it .

Ok, all keep cool ,she's very hot around here

Bruce.
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Try Phandroid on internet, lots of reviews, forum etc. Love my elcheapo Superpad now probably 3 years old. Main use I have is with Oziexplorer for Android with external magnetic GPS "aerial" that resides on vehicles roof. Allows the use of topo maps imported from Oziexplorer for PC or even geo maps. Great for prospecting and use in conjunction with a handheld GPS. Resolution and capacity to handle sunlight very limited but other then that all AOK.

Uses of these tablets are as many as ones imagination. Seems to be a App made for any use. Give Phandroid a look and it will link you to the many other sites, basically they will use most of the android phone apps and vice-versa.

Oziexplorer is moving map software without the voice of vehicle navigation software but has many other powerful features and can be used across most platforms even a version for the Ipad, Iphone is coming. Good OZ made software, used worldwide.Edited by norcold 2014-01-05
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Thanks Vic.

I'll go there and do some reading. it's funny how some of us ol far#,s buy these things but don't have a 3 yo resident grand daughter to teach us the way to use them?

I'll get there ,for sure

bruce
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Posted: 10:57am 09 Jan 2014
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Hi Bruce,

If you are accustomed with the old MS-DOS file manager Norton Commander, on Google Play is something similar, named "FAR". You can create folders with it on your user space (don't know how it is named on your tablet). If you browse this within your tablet, clicking on the link will ask you if it can open it with Google Play application.

If you want to do some work on it, just look for the proper application in the store.
The same if you want to program it in BASIC (here on the forum we discussed about some BASIC interpreters and I think I posted a basic application in communicating with a microcontroller board via Bluetooth).

Viber application is for talking for free to smartphone owners but you have there the Skype.

There is really nothing special to learn about Android regarding to operating, just be careful not to expose sensible things about you and your friends (Google has at last the operating system he dreamed for after he discovered that the urchin script [Glenn knows what I'm talking about] was able to operate from behind the firewall on users computers) ... Of course, rooting it is something else but don't try it - you can brick it.

BTW, Google refuses us the right to have a firewall and the right to select which permissions an application must have - you only have the right to decide if that application must be installed or not on your tablet. That being said, the network thing is superior to Windoze thanks to the linux kernel.
And don't bother with antivirus programs, as those are useless - you just add another information collector on your device.
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Bruce,

This Forum, obviously to answer your question! Also Whirlpool is a great forum to complain about products in the coms arena and cursing of Telsucks and other carriers and Indian call centre and scams ("Hello, this is Microsoft, you have a virus ...!") is a delight to read there.

You may find a big discussion about Android tablets there and users praise/complain about new products. I have bought a 7" Huawei tablet (Coles $130, then $99!) and an LG schmartphone based on recommendations from users. Recently they told forum members about the Kitkat lottery where you could win a new Nexus tablet by buying Android-marked KitKats, some did win one, others bought $50 worth of Kitkats, won nothing and asked for recipes how to get rid of them!

My wife now uses my tablet for Sudoku, I am sooo unlucky! Had I been born to Dolly Partons as part of triplets, I would have been the one on the bottle!
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domwild
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Bruce,

More to your point: Unless you find an Android app via the store, which lets you do what you want to do what Android users generally do is ROOT the phone, i.e., give themselves root or superuser or Windoze Admin. privileges to the Unix/Linux like OS. Free root apps are listed on Google Playstore, just ask. Better go into Whirlpool, it is all there what to do. Some even load another OS onto the phone to get of the Telsux bloatware.

Once your phone is rooted, you can use the Unix commands md (make dir), cd (change dir) etc. and really brick the phone! Bill Gates wrote MS-DOS (not quite, he bought it and expanded it), so if you know your MS-DOS mkdir, etc. just leave a few letters out and you become a Unix guru or ayatholla (supreme authority).

With Android your photos should go into some magical place on your SD card or internal memory anyway and you can access that place then via your PC and USB cable, so why worry about making directories??
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Posted: 08:18pm 11 Jan 2014
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Don`t think there is much reason to root your device, unless of course you have that granddaughter resident. I rooted my android phone successfully but for no reason except to give it a go, not being a "power" user I found no advantage. They also make a great portable pdf and ebook reader with the appropriate apps.

How are you going with it? If it has wifi and you have a wifi internet conx, it is handy for a portable (in bed, or wherever) internet conx. Many practical uses, shame they can`t push the mower.
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  norcold said  ... Many practical uses, shame they can`t push the mower.


Let me correct you with an ... australian android application and an Arduino controlled mower:

- the application;
- the mower.

You will see in the movie the autonomous variant, but you can also control it by RC (didn't looked into details, but I presume it use the Bluetooth). In order to control it from your sofa, you need a video cam connected to your TV or PC...

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norcold

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Many thanks vasi, we live in exciting times and are very fortunate. I stand corrected Bruce and wish to requote. The Android tablet can do anything, it is indeed a very versatile device. But keep that granddaughter handy.
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domwild
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Yes, it is a great little device, once I switch her Wifi on, she can also learn how to ask Dr Google for recipes to keep me in the style to which I have become accustomed to!

As I mentioned on this forum before, with an OBD2 dongle (>= $12) hooked up to the car you can download error codes of sensors and service your vehicle once you fight your way thru the many protocols. Stephen Fry even uses his smartphone to find the nearest homosexual with an app called "Cruiser"! Start your car remotely in winter so you do not suffer the cold once inside!

And yes, it is also an eBook reader, so why buy a separate device? Because it is a more paper white display but I did not. Bought the book by Dawkins, "The God Delusion" and read the free editions of Jack London's Alaskan dog stories. So I have to buy another one, his and hers!
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domwild
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Posted: 12:59pm 12 Jan 2014
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Norcold,

How does an external GPS antenna work with your tablet? Smart phones and tablets do not seem to come with external antenna jacks any more. I am intrigued? Or is it a USB connection?
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norcold

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domwild
Comes with it, no its not usb it has about a 2mm diameter "nipple" plug on end of 2.5m cable, that just plugs directly into a female socket incorporated into the tablet. Antenna has a magnet on back.

It`s a flytouch 2, 2 usb sockets, 2 micro sd card, wifi bought off ebay if memory serves me right for about $120 frt free from HK about 3 years back. Its major failing for me is its screen is next to useless in daylight.
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Thanks for that. I have a T100 ZT, Samsung A402 and LG with antenna jacks. The LG required a hole into the back to get at it! Is this a dedicated GPS jack or a universal GPS/broomstick/Yagi jack for the bush NextG signal?? Most smartphones have GPS but no antenna jack.
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I`d say its a dedicated jack, but as it`s the only one I`ve had anything to do with I really don`t know. Anyhow a picture says 100 words. Boy didn`t that mag blow the dirt, hair up. Looks clean with eye.


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You got my curiosity switched on so checked up on the connector. It is a standard MMCX Connector. Apparently used on lots of GPS, WiFi and RF antenna cables in todays miniature electronic appliances. Note the split ring in photo this clicks it in securely allows 360 rotation. Very robust and positive conx considering the flogging its had.

Like the cat we can purr with contentment til the next puzzle tis the spice of life.

Also checked on the flytouch on ebay, still going but up to ver 10, which strangely doesn`t have a GPS, dropped off it seems at ver 8 . Once they have a daylight viewable screen I`ll probably update.
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norcold,

This is definitely a dedicated GPS jack and not the antenna jack for a NextG antenna. There is no rotational thingy with NextG.
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Dom/Vic,

I recently bought a magnet attached, external GPS antenna from DX.com for about $7 with an MMCX connector - link here: GPS Antenna It seems to be pretty good quality and has a 3 metre cable.

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Greg,
Thanks for that link. Never heard of them their prices are bloody tops. Anyone have a 7" or 10" Android tablet that can handle sunlight ie Screen still viewable out in the sun?
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