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| aargee Senior Member  Joined: 21/08/2008 Location: AustraliaPosts: 255 |
As Geoff intimated, V3.0 of the MM software is now up on his website. For both Maximite and UBW32. Enjoy. - Rob. For crying out loud, all I wanted to do was flash this blasted LED. |
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BobD Guru  Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
Got he mail about 30 minutes back. I hope to get it installed soon. No source code. I'm OK with that. Thanks Geoff G. Bob |
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djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
Just read the post Woohoo! Version 3.0 installed on my Maximite SM1 & ????Mite Prototype boards Looks and works excellent. The Little built-in Editor is a ripper. Labels are great idea (OLD VBA HAcker from wayback) and I am looking forward to the update with User Defined Functions (They really are needed for readable and flexible programs). The challenge now is to see what direction Olimex/KSD/Dontronics go with their DMBasic Versions. (That is what it should be called) VK4MU MicroController Units |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Downloaded and installed on my Altronics Maximite. Like the full screen edit too, good work Geoff. It would be really really really nice to see the source code made available within a reasonable time frame. That way the Duinomite users can get the benefits of MMBasic version 3, and we are all happy and having fun  . I thinks thats a fair request.
Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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jman Guru Joined: 12/06/2011 Location: New ZealandPosts: 711 |
Fantastic Well done Geoff Any chance of the 1-Wire code been incorporated into version 3 The editor is awesome Many Thanks John |
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| Ray B Senior Member Joined: 16/02/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 219 |
I agree 1WIRE is missing. Perhaps Gerard (Sec061) the author of the 1WIRE code could offer his source code to Geoff who could then formally release a MM Basic 3.1 which brings it all together. Pointless trying reinvent the wheel. Us end users live in hope.... RayB from Perth WA |
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Keith @ Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 167 |
Guys I agree with the need for 1-Wire ... I live in hope too ... I have waited since July and Gerard delivered. I currently have 4 options in hardware ... run Gerard's code on a maximite or a cgmmstick or a duinomite or use an arduino uno and the IDE which includes 1-Wire code Because Gerard's code runs on my maximite I'll use it for my home brew. Meanwhile I'll see how the software/hardware challenge plays out over the next 6 months ... this challenge is as exciting as Days of our Lives ... I'll be awaiting each exciting episode  .
I can always press my arduino into use if the circumstances change and I need my maximite. So no sales for the entrepreneurs, sorry fellas. I really wanted to buy something but you just aren't quite there yet. As the French say ... C'est la vie. Keith The more we know, the more we know we don't know ! |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
I'm now REALLY puzzled. Geoff seemed to say MMBasic is still open source yet 3.0 is out as binary only??? I don't get it. I could understand it being released as SOURCE only (though both source & binary would be best). What is going on? How is this helping anyone? It's not like it takes long to ZIP a source tree. Enlighten me someone, please... John |
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| Keith @ Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 167 |
John The great man said this in his parting post ... "The result is that the Maximite world is splitting into two worlds." The next day the CGMMStick and MMBasic 3.0 were released. The MMBasic 3.0 being a significant update ... I doubt the code will be released till much further along the release numbers. A good marketing strategy! C'est la vie Keith The more we know, the more we know we don't know ! |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
Not really. Anyone with a business would be foolhardy to move to any version where only a single developer has the source code, because the consequences of a bug could be disaster for the business. Any business that's been wondering whether to adopt MMBasic may well now decide to run elsewhere. Of course, Geoff only made this stuff for hobbyists, so it's not a problem. John (The above doesn't apply to me, I'm just pointing out the obvious.) |
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| Keith @ Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 167 |
John I've been with this forum almost from the beginning of the Maximite. I think that as the great man said ... "And, if I say so myself, the result has been pretty good. For one person (working from his spare bedroom) the code is remarkably bug free, complete and well documented." ... and I would have to agree. Geoff did an amazing job with fixing bugs during the early days and it was really heartening to see. How many people over the years have started business from a bedroom or a garage and still provide software that was and is commercially acceptable ... bugs and all ... and still produce software like Microsoft bugs and all ... and whilst Microsoft is undisputedly at the top, everyone else is in the same boat as we go down the list. Keith The more we know, the more we know we don't know ! |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
Keith, this still not answer JohnS questions and why Geoff keep the GPL licensee message and open source claims on his web site when the code is closed source since November 2011. If Geoff include Gerard's code in MM he have to open his source as well under the terms of GPL and this is why he didn't. We all need to hear Geoff statement if MM is now open source or closed source, he didn't address this in his message. |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Is it just that I cant find it, or has Geoff removed the link to this forum from his web site? Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| BobD Guru Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
It seems to be gone. Here is how it used to look. 
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| rhamer Senior Member Joined: 06/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 174 |
I can't find it either, probably because he said he doesn't want to participate here anymore? I did find something about the source code being only available to people who apply for it, and you can only use it yourself and not give your changes to anybody, but that is not closed source, just not open source. Honestly, how dumb do people think I am? Just say it like it is and then there will be no doubt. MMBasic is NOT open source. The only person who can release new versions is Geoff and any changes you might want he has to approve. There is no community driven input that determines the direction of the code, and you can't do it yourself and give it to those that want what you have done, assuming you can get the source in the first place. MMbasic is Geoffs project, and he has chosen to keep it that way. There it is said, so now that it is clear, let MM be whatever Geoff wants, and DM be whatever the community wants. This is just exasperating Rohan Rohan Hamer HAMFIELD Software & Hardware Solutions Makers of the Maximite Expander. http://www.hamfield.com.au |
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| djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
There are more than two types of software licence Geoff Graham has chosen to NOT release Version 3.0 and beyond of MMBASIC under the GPL license. He has however allowed people to use (for their OWN USAGE) the source code which he will send via email if requested. He could have just as easily said "No source at all" His Software, HIS CHOICE. I am on his side on this issue. Don't like it, write your own version. No different than HUNDREDS of other software packages out there in the big wide WORLD. Open source DOES NOT Mean ALL subsequent versions will continue to be OPEN SOURCE. VK4MU MicroController Units |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
I've sent Geoff an email, will wait for a reply, might be a miss understanding. Glennm The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1344 |
Edit I didn't read Gizmo's post correctly but yes it does seem any links or reference to this forum has gone. |
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| rhamer Senior Member Joined: 06/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 174 |
So what! It was open source then it was withheld source with no comment. Now it's comment by stealth. Why not just state what it is you are doing so that it is clear to everybody? I couldn't care less what he does with his source, but don't say it's open then get upset when people take you at your word and build derivatives. Then go home sulking with your bat and ball, that incidentally contains other peoples work who thought they were contributing to an open source project. Open source means others can do what they like with it. It doesn't mean you have to agree with it or accept the work and you can go on doing your own thing if you wish and ignore derivative works, but Geoff is not happy with that, he wants to be the king and all hail the king. So withdraw the source, to try and kill off what he calls opposition. What opposition it's all free anyway. The mistake here was making it open source in the first place when the commitment to open source is nothing but lip service. This is a joke. Rohan Rohan Hamer HAMFIELD Software & Hardware Solutions Makers of the Maximite Expander. http://www.hamfield.com.au |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
I'm a little dissapointed at Geoffs decision to remove any links to this web site. Not only the forums, but the article I wrote reviewing the Maximite, http://www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/articles/Maximite.asp. I made changes to this forum at Geoffs request as a place for Maximite users to ask questions and share information. I've tried to keep a level play field, removed offending members and posts, and basically put as many hours into it as my real job would allow. I really dont know what to say, other than "dont shoot the messenger". Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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