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darcyrandall200

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Posted: 01:39am 10 Feb 2011
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Hey Guys,

Can anyone recommend a decent place to shop for 1/4" steel guy wires in WA, Australia?
Bunnings does not seem to have anything appropriate.

Cheers


Thankyou.

Regards Darcy Randall, Perth Western Australia
 
Barry T Coles

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Hi Darcy

Try this mob they are a rigging, fitting & lifting equipment Co & should have an outlet in Perth.

Noble & Son

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Joblow
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Sling Rig in Kewdale sell wire rope of all materials and sizes, and will advise what is best for a particular application
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PS

They also supply shackles, wire rope grips and turnbuckles etc.
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gsw999

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do you have screwfix in oz?? also ebay often has some good stuff just got my winch and wire from there at a great price.
i am not interested in giving my hard earned money to corrupt "leaders" to pour down the drain.
 
brucedownunder2
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Get armed with a carton of VB and cruise into the local electric line yard...

After you have told the storeman your story ,and pointed out that your boots are steel capped, betcha he gives you heaps of odd lengths of stay wire ..

It's a bit hard to terminate ,,but I'll tell ya how to do that lata....

It worked for me..

Bruce
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Sling Rig at the corner of Kewdale Road and Orrorong Road is best - as advised by jobblow.

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Hi Darcy

What I use is HT fencing wire bundled into six strand then spiral wound with a anchor point and a electric drill, or if you are young and fit a crank with a hook on the end.

it is strong and a big roll of wire will make enough for a couple of mills. Allow 15 % extra length when you wind the loop over the length you want.

Normal wire is a lot easier to use as it is softer and easier to handle, a six pack is good for 4 tonnes as compared to 6 tonnes for the high tensile.

Cost about $60 dollars for a roll two boxes of beer.

All the best

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darcyrandall200

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The fencing wire is a good idea. I might try that. Thankyou
Thankyou.

Regards Darcy Randall, Perth Western Australia
 
windlight
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How much do you need I have a roll of wire as used by Western Power 3 strand high tensile, I am not looking forward to breaking into the roll as the drum has collapsed somewhat, but I seriously doubt I will ever use all of it..

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  gsw999 said   do you have screwfix in oz?? also ebay often has some good stuff just got my winch and wire from there at a great price.


Hi,

There is no official ScrewFix in Australia, but I have been used these guys recently and they are very much on the same lines as ScrewFix.

Trade Warehouse Direct - http://www.tradewarehouse.com.au

I ordered from them last week and the screws, wire mesh and flyscreen which I purchased arrived the next day. They are based in Perth and so am I, but it was still excellent service. If you are not in Perth, they deliver throughout Australia for a fixed fee of $9.95 and if you order over $99 delivery is free.

Check them out on their website.

By the way although they do sell wire, they don't sell the size gauge you need. I understand that they are increasing their range all the time and they will try and get items in on special order if you let them know what you want. I guess they can't say fairer than that!

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  VK4AYQ said   Hi Darcy

What I use is HT fencing wire bundled into six strand then spiral wound with a anchor point and a electric drill, or if you are young and fit a crank with a hook on the end.


Bob

This sounds brilliant. What did you do to splice the ends, or join them or stop them unraveling?
 
VK4AYQ
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Hi Snowghost

In the anchored end I wrap them around a thimble thats used for wire rope, then when you Finnish winding use a block of wood with a hole drilled in it and then split along the hole, clamp to the wire and wind it tight onto the thimble, then wrap with tie wire close to the thimble and it makes a professional looking job. you can do the same on the other end if you know the exact length you need, I found with the wire I was using it needed to be about 5 % longer to start with, you will have to over wind it as it does spring back a few turns when released. If you don,t want to make a fixed length bit the other end can be finished by wrapping around a thimble then using a piece of 1/2 x 3/8 steel bar 18 inches long with a hole drilled in a bit from one end needs to be a sliding fit on the wire, put some grease on the wire and wrap the end of the wire around it for 10 or 12 turns, repeat the tie wire trick and is all done.

My friend who showed me used to solder the splice wrap then boil for a few minutes to get the acid off the wire and stress relieve the joint.

You can use low tensile wire also and it is a lot easier to work with but for the same gauge wire you need more strands for the same strength.

I used 4 strands HT and six for LT, I tested it with the tractor and couldn't break it.

All the best

BobEdited by VK4AYQ 2011-03-04
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mid north Matt

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hi Bob
i like that,sounds like a cheap solution for us $$$ strapped windmiller's out there as it cost lots of $$ to buy new gear to get our gennies flying.another way to save $$ is go to the power companies and get the cable that they use to go from the pole to your house,3 phrase 4 core is the best but 2 core single phrase will do.dumps are good places for gav pipe and deep cycle batties or scrap metal yards are keen to sell for cash $$ as well
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Hi matt

The possibilities for innovation and recycling are endless, and the more we can use them the better for the environment, industry and governments trash is out treasure, it saves money and allows innovation we couldn't afford if all things where purchased of the shelf. It also gives a sense of accomplishment ans satisfaction beyond a purchased item.

All the best

Bob
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brucedownunder2
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Hi crew ,,

I use the electric linesman guy wire for holding side and end poles vertival.

It's seven strand several gauges,(u want the light stuff),, you'll get it from linesman depots if youe are friendly and have a carton of vb in the back of the ute ,lol.
You place the thimble or eye from the stay rod in a vice , thresd though ,say 400mm or so of wire ,unravel the seven strands(they all have seven strands).
Kink the first strand at 90* and start tightly winding around the other 6 starands ,,,it will spring back half a strand , nick this strand by holding with strong pliers with a edge of a file halfway through and gently twist off, ..1st one don . now do the other6 and you have a professional finish , paint with cold gal ..


Sorry, after 10 times of trying ,, I can't post the details of my terminating ,,even lowerered the size to 150-then 400 ..

Not a good day

Bruce -OH, they are in my IRC pic Album for all to se "Brucedownunder"

good stuff this line wire.





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Hey Bruce, could you send the images to me, then I can see why they didn't upload. You have my email?
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brucedownunder2
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Sorry mate ,, no luck , been at it for an hour

Bruce




did that yhyt not the splice terminations???Edited by brucedownunder2 2011-03-05
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brucedownunder2
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still no luk ,been trying an hour for posting the splice pic's ..sorry

bruce


http://www.anotherpower.com/gallery/brucedownunder/guy_wire_ termination_2Edited by brucedownunder2 2011-03-06
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brucedownunder2
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I'll try once more,

http://www.anotherpower.com/gallery/brucedownunder/Guy_wire_ termination

http://www.anotherpower.com/gallery/brucedownunder/guy_wire_ termination_2
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