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Malibu
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A quote from Grogster from This thread...
  Quote  I have always been pretty dismissive of chatGPT.
Perhaps I was wrong.

Just for my own look-see on ChatGPT, I thought I'd give a shot and see what happens (apologies for name-dropping here)
I don't like hijacked threads, so I started a new one because I couldn't resist putting this stimulating conversation up for all to see

The conversation went like this (with some truncated answers)...

Q: What is MMBasic
  Quote  MMBasic is a version of the BASIC programming language designed for use on microcontrollers and single-board computers. It was created by Michael Mastroianni and is particularly known for its use on devices like the Microchip PICAXE, the Micromite, and the MMBasic for the Micromite Plus.

Q: who developed the mmbasic language
  Quote  MMBasic was developed by Geoff Graham. It is a version of the BASIC programming language designed for use with the Micromite microcontroller series and other similar embedded systems.

Q: who is Michael Mastroianni
  Quote  Michael Mastroianni is not associated with the development of MMBasic. It seems I made an error earlier.

Q: who developed the webmite operating system
  Quote  The WebMite operating system was developed by Geoff Graham

Q: was geoff graham the only one in webmite development
  Quote  Geoff Graham was the primary developer behind WebMite, but, as with many software projects, there could have been contributions from other individuals, such as beta testers or collaborators who provided feedback and support.

Q: what did peter mather do for webmite development
  Quote  Peter Mather played a significant role in the development of WebMite by contributing to its development alongside Geoff Graham. Specifically, Peter Mather focused on the development of the WebMite firmware


A bit of shakey ground so far, but ok, I'll accept it...
.... so, now it gets a bit surreal...


Q: who is grogster
  Quote  Grogster is the online pseudonym of Peter Mather, a prominent contributor to the MMBasic community.

Q: who is malibu
  Quote  Malibu is the online pseudonym of Geoff Graham, the developer behind MMBasic and various related projects like Micromite and WebMite. In the context of these communities, "Malibu" is the handle used by Geoff Graham in forums, discussions, and contributions related to his software and hardware projects.

Q: are you sure about malibu
  Quote  I apologize for the confusion earlier. "Malibu" is actually the pseudonym of Peter Mather, not Geoff Graham. Peter Mather, also known as Grogster, is a notable figure in the MMBasic and Micromite communities, known for his contributions and support related to these projects. Geoff Graham is the primary developer of MMBasic and related systems, while Peter Mather (Malibu) has also made significant contributions, particularly in the firmware and community support areas.

....conversation ends...


WhAtThE.......?  
Laughed so hard at my new 'status', I nearly fell off the chair at this point!  
Now, I'm also really confused about who ANYbody is in this place!  

Please, feel free to add to the post with any other bizarre ChatGPT conversations you've had, this stuff is GOLD!
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right... I had to keep going because it was too much fun...

Q: how can peter mather be malibu and grogster at the same time
  Quote  You’re right; it would be unusual for someone to use multiple pseudonyms for the same work. In this case, there seems to have been a mix-up. Peter Mather is known as Grogster, and the pseudonym Malibu is associated with Geoff Graham.

So, to clarify:

Geoff Graham is the developer of MMBasic and uses the pseudonym Malibu in some contexts.
Peter Mather, also known as Grogster, is a contributor to the MMBasic community and involved with related projects.

Q: are you sure of it this time
  Quote  Yes, let me clarify with accurate details:

Geoff Graham is the creator of MMBasic and associated with the pseudonym Malibu.
Peter Mather uses the pseudonym Grogster.
Thank you for your patience while we sorted this out. If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask!


Classic!  
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I wonder if that chat was Microsoft based      
 
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  Malibu said  Q: who is grogster
  Quote  Grogster is the online pseudonym of Peter Mather, a prominent contributor to the MMBasic community.



LOL!!!!      
I'm flattered to be compared to Peter like that, but.....
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  Quote  I wonder if that chat was Microsoft based

I don't think so... It never told me to 'please wait' while the latest update was being installed.
Nor did I need to have several coffees, a nanny-nap, walk the dog, mow the lawns and swear at the computer while I was waiting for an answer...

  Quote  I'm flattered to be compared to Peter like that, but.....

'fess up mate, who are you really???  

(starting to wonder who I am too!)
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I'm Spartacus and so is my wife.

Best wishes,

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  Malibu said  
  Quote  I wonder if that chat was Microsoft based

I don't think so... It never told me to 'please wait' while the latest update was being installed.
Nor did I need to have several coffees, a nanny-nap, walk the dog, mow the lawns and swear at the computer while I was waiting for an answer...

  Quote  I'm flattered to be compared to Peter like that, but.....

'fess up mate, who are you really???  

(starting to wonder who I am too!)


......I've said too much.      
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This is what makes AI so dangerous. It's not "Artificial Intelligence" at all, it's a "Simulation Of Intelligence". There is no intelligence there at all, artificial or otherwise.

I've heard computers described as "lightning fast imbeciles" and that's still true, nothing has changed. They have improved in fields like data searching, comparison and handling but that doesn't mean that they are more intelligent. :)

A computer system can only give a correct answer if it can be calculated mathematically. Even then the answer will be correct only if the question can only be taken one way. Any vagueness in the question and any answer can't possibly be considered to be reliable.

"All right," said Deep Thought. "The Answer to the Great Question..."
"Yes..!"
"Of Life, the Universe and Everything..." said Deep Thought.
"Yes...!"
"Is..." said Deep Thought, and paused.
"Yes...!"
"Is..."
"Yes...!!!...?"
"Forty-two," said Deep Thought, with infinite majesty and calm.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

Not bad after seven and a half million years calculation. Must have been Windows 1.1.

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Edited 2024-09-07 16:57 by Mixtel90
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Thanks for posting that.

I'm Spartacus... does that make me Tom's wife???

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Well I just tried chatgpt for the first time and got to ask 3 questions then it demanded my email address.

So no thanks for this bot that just wants to spam my email
 
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Judging by it's answers I am better of talking to myself.

Only trust ChatGPT if you already know the answer...

Jim (I think)
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  Bryan1 said  Well I just tried chatgpt for the first time and got to ask 3 questions then it demanded my email address.

So no thanks for this bot that just wants to spam my email


Well, then....perhaps I was right in my ORIGINAL comment on the other thread!  
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  TassyJim said  Only trust ChatGPT if you already know the answer...

Jim (I think)


That is brilliant.
It should be on a T-shirt!

....could be extended to Alexa, Cortana and Siri.
Edited 2024-09-07 17:53 by Grogster
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  TassyJim said  Only trust ChatGPT if you already know the answer...


I haven't tried ChatGPT. I use perplexity.ai--but not when I think Iknow the right answer. When I can recognize answers which are clearly wrong, then sometimes I can drill down to get an at least plausible answer, with sources noted which I can follow for further clarification.

But too many times the original answers are so clearly wrong that it would not be reasonable to ascribe intelligence to the source.

I have found AI to be a valuable research tool to at least provide a path to an answer--far better than google search, which was itself far better than the old school method of having to go to the library to do research--or to have to take classes or find a mentor or apprentice oneself.
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  lizby said  ... I have found AI to be a valuable research tool to at least provide a path to an answer--far better than google search, which was itself far better than the old school method of having to go to the library to do research--or to have to take classes or find a mentor or apprentice oneself.


Kind regards

BTW:
I recently used ChatGPT to write batch files for unpacking nested RAR files with >100,000 files. It worked very well, although not on the first attempt. Later, ChatGPT wrote a batch file for sorting these files into folders with the appropriate initial letters.
Example: (with comments in German)
@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

set "source_dir=C:\Pfad\zum\Quellverzeichnis"
set "target_base_dir=C:\Pfad\zum\Zielverzeichnis"

rem Kopiere alle Dateien rekursiv und ordne sie nach dem Anfangsbuchstaben
for /r "%source_dir%" %%f in (*) do (
   set "filename=%%~nxf"
   set "first_letter=!filename:~0,1!"
   
   rem Überprüfe, ob das Verzeichnis für den Buchstaben existiert
   if exist "%target_base_dir%\!first_letter!\" (
       echo Kopiere %%f nach "%target_base_dir%\!first_letter!\"
       copy "%%f" "%target_base_dir%\!first_letter!\" >nul
   ) else (
       echo Verzeichnis "%target_base_dir%\!first_letter!\" existiert nicht, Datei %%f wird übersprungen.
   )
)

echo.
echo Vorgang abgeschlossen.
pause

I'm too old to remember the old DOS syntax. I found it helpful.

BTW: Whenever I use ChatGPT I always feel a bit like Aladdin with his magic lamp. And I'm always waiting for the moment when it tells me that I've used up my three free wishes.
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Edited 2024-09-07 22:31 by twofingers
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  Grogster said  
  TassyJim said  Only trust ChatGPT if you already know the answer...

Jim (I think)


That is brilliant.
It should be on a T-shirt!

....could be extended to Alexa, Cortana and Siri.


  I want that T-shirt along with the one "Never Trust the Autorouter"

1960's: "The government want to put recording devices in our homes!!!"

2024: "hey Alexa, is it ok to feed pancakes to my cat?"

I always have my £60 Argos guitar, next to my desk. When I'm pondering something, I'll pick it up and take a stab at some obscure song, remembering about only 5 of the original lyrics    and in a key that suits me. Before I know it, the original song shows-up as a suggestion on my YouTube...never fails  
 
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I use chat GPT daily for my work. As a software developer who works with well documented languages, it does a really good job.

But anything less common, like the Micromite stuff, it will struggle. It is basically a human speech simulating front end to a lot of data, and the more data it has on a subject, the better is it. Get into less well documented subjects ( micromite for example ), and it starts to ramble on and make stuff up. It just doesn't have enough data, comparatively, to work with.

I mean, a question about writing a simple loop in php, it would have millions of examples in its library, but maybe only a few dozen in PicoMite basic.

I generally ask it a question, like how to do something using html, javascript, php,  styles, and it usually gives me what I need first time. Its all about the question you ask. Occasionally I would then ask it to improve on something, or try a different approach. After that, I close the conversation and start a new conversation with new questions I have after testing and modifying the code it gave previously.

By closing conversation earlier, I seam to avoid the incorrect data or hallucinations it generates in longer conversations.

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For code, I have had better results using:

Phind
 
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ChatGPT and Turing test:
A Turing test of whether AI chatbots are behaviorally similar to humans
causality ≠ correlation ≠ coincidence
 
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