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domwild
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Posted: 08:10pm 28 Sep 2014
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Hi,

My bi-directional Allegro hall sensor reports 0 Amps at Vcc/2 or 2.5V. It would report 50 Amps at Vcc or 5 Volts.

Now 2.5 V corresponds to 50 Amps, so we get 2.5V/50 Amps = 50 mV/Amp.

Surely Allegro is correct in their data sheet when they claim 40 mV per Amp and I am wrong with my 50 mV/Amp. Where is my logic incorrect??
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Posted: 12:10am 29 Sep 2014
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If you check the specs for the 50A uni directional unit you'll see 60mV/A.

So I guess your calculated 50mV/A falls right between these two 50A versions .

I bought some of these units recently and I'll stick with the 40mV/A specs Allegro supplies. Just have to finish the little PCB's and I'll be able to test what the output is exactly.
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domwild
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Posted: 12:44pm 29 Sep 2014
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Thanks Tinker. Best to stick to the Allegro specs.
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Posted: 12:18am 08 Oct 2014
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Hi domwild

I just tested my Allegro current sensors.
I have the ACS 758 types in 050B and in 100B range.

At 30A current (checked with a DC clamp meter) I got 38mV/A on the 050B.
On the 100B the 30A test current gave 16mV/A.
The latter is a fair bit below the printed 20mV/a specs, will need to do some further testing - have to make a bigger water cooled load first.

I did use a 33uF capacitor at the Vout terminal, with this size cap it takes a while before the output stabilises.
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Posted: 02:34am 08 Oct 2014
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Hi Tinker

Check you clamp meter against another meter. I've been caught out before with meters that I trusted, but found they were reading wrong.

Also did you have a bypass cap, say .01 - 0.47uF, across the +5 and ground pins. The output can be noisey without it.

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Tinker

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  Gizmo said   Hi Tinker

Check you clamp meter against another meter. I've been caught out before with meters that I trusted, but found they were reading wrong.

Also did you have a bypass cap, say .01 - 0.47uF, across the +5 and ground pins. The output can be noisey without it.

Glenn


Yes Glen, I did use a 103 bypass cap. I read your blog on these things too, found cutting the current connecting tags from 1.6mm copper sheet is a lot easier than flattening copper tubing for that purpose
Not sure about the clamp meter - it was not a cheap one and it has a zeroing button. I suppose I could check it against a conventional 100A shunt.
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