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Forum Index : Windmills : horizontal vs vertical axis trubine

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tomqu7
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Posted: 10:03pm 08 Jun 2013
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some sites n state vertical are better more efficient less wear more electricity
other sites say horizonatl are better ????
 
electrondady1
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Posted: 03:30am 09 Jun 2013
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i like vertical mills because of the way they look
but any site that says they are more efficient than a horizontal is blowing smoke
a Darrius type may out perform a horizontal farm type mill for efficiency
i doubt it would for longevity.
 
tomqu7
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Posted: 08:14pm 09 Jun 2013
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darius would be expensive with airfoil blades
how much is a big one 50 kw 100 kw
they state that they produce more electricity than an hawt
is this right
i just got a quote for an aerolos at $52 kfor 50 kw and 100 kw at 1111111 etc
 
Gizmo

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Posted: 09:51pm 09 Jun 2013
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Darius's have many engineering challenges beyond the home builder. Yes they can make as much power as a HAWT, but are difficult to control and maintain, which is why you wont see them at any recently built wind farms. HAWT's are easier, much easier.

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MrDelanco

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Posted: 07:05pm 23 Jun 2013
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I have a Darius system that is working very well for several years now, and any home builder can build it. What engineering challenges are you referring to ?

And I found they can make as much or even more power as a HAWT, at a lower speed and are not difficult to control and maintain if designed properly.


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Gizmo

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Posted: 10:10pm 24 Jun 2013
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The engineering difficulties relate mostly to large scale systems, but small Darius's also offer problems compared to a standard HAWT. It's the reason Darius turbines are rarely seen. They can make more power, true, but are much harder to build compared to a HAWT.

The full size Darius turbines were abandoned because of the low frequency vibrations destroying bearings and blade assemblies, and several cooked brake assemblies. A HAWT has a relatively smooth cycle per revolution, a Darius has several power pulses per cycle.

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