Home
JAQForum Ver 24.01
Log In or Join  
Active Topics
Local Time 11:35 26 Nov 2024 Privacy Policy
Jump to

Notice. New forum software under development. It's going to miss a few functions and look a bit ugly for a while, but I'm working on it full time now as the old forum was too unstable. Couple days, all good. If you notice any issues, please contact me.

Forum Index : Windmills : What’s it called?

Author Message
Tinker

Guru

Joined: 07/11/2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 1904
Posted: 02:05pm 03 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

I'm hoping somebody with a better memory than myself knows the name of a windmill which has curved thin blades that look like an egg beater .
I would like to look it up on Google but without the right name....
Am particularly interested what blade profile is used, the mill I saw whizzed around too fast to check. It also has a little savonius built in, I assume its to start the thing spinning?
Any info is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Klaus
 
Gizmo

Admin Group

Joined: 05/06/2004
Location: Australia
Posts: 5078
Posted: 02:13pm 03 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Darrieus

They have problems with the torgue peaks and dips as they rotate, fatigue in the blades and the bottom bearings tend to fail. Also, hard to control, brakes overheat.

Look very cool though.

Glenn
The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now.
JAQ
 
MacGyver

Guru

Joined: 12/05/2009
Location: United States
Posts: 1329
Posted: 01:01am 04 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Tink

Was it like this one?



OR

This one?



Here's a hot link to a post back in 2006, which looks to me to be similar to the second picture.

About a year ago, this eggbeater variety was the rage. It was all over the Internet, but now, a year later, it's pretty hard to find. Must have been just a flash in the pan. Still, it's a cool-looking design.


. . . . . Mac


Nothing difficult is ever easy!
Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman,
"Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!"
Copeville, Texas
 
Tinker

Guru

Joined: 07/11/2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 1904
Posted: 03:28pm 04 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Neither Mac.
The blades were parallel to the vertical shaft and they began and ended at the shaft not on spreaders. Looked just like an egg beater with nicely curved blades that were furthest from the shaft at their centers.

The one I saw was on top of a street light and supposed to power it with a tiny solar panel below the turbine fitted as well. It was not a big affair, about 600mm from top to bottom of the blades.
The plaque said it was on trial and supposed to generate 400W (hrs?) per day. Its at a reasonably windy little coastal town.

I was interested as it might work on my trailer sailer if the blades are thin enough to stretch to lay along the shaft for easy packing it away. Can't have a permanent turbine on the boat, solar is fine during the day but wind at night might help to keep the fridge cold.
Klaus
 
Tinker

Guru

Joined: 07/11/2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 1904
Posted: 03:29pm 04 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

  Gizmo said   Darrieus

They have problems with the torgue peaks and dips as they rotate, fatigue in the blades and the bottom bearings tend to fail. Also, hard to control, brakes overheat.

Look very cool though.

Glenn


Thanks Glenn, I knew it was an odd word , looking it up now.
Klaus
 
MacGyver

Guru

Joined: 12/05/2009
Location: United States
Posts: 1329
Posted: 12:37am 05 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Tink

From memory, I believe the curve the blades follow is called a troposkein curve. It's the same shape a rope suspended between its ends takes from gravity. Making the blades this shape evens out the centrifugal forces on them as they spin about the central axis.

I remember seeing a big one of these out in the desert near Barstwo, CA or Victorville, CA (don't remember exactly; desert anyway) that had center support booms from the main shaft to the center of each blade. That one was a monster and it had to be spun up with a motor until the blades started 'flying'. After that, it stayed going by itself. May still be there, I dunno.


. . . . . Mac
Nothing difficult is ever easy!
Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman,
"Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!"
Copeville, Texas
 
MacGyver

Guru

Joined: 12/05/2009
Location: United States
Posts: 1329
Posted: 01:20am 06 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Tinker

Hey, check this out: V Rotor

It's a VAWT with the blades set in a "V" fashion about the center. I don't see why you couldn't make blades either side of the center. It might be a way to increase the amount of wind seen by each blade. From the video on the link, it appears the blades actually "fly" and are not merely dragging in the breeze.

Maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but it might be worth investigating.


. . . . . Mac
Nothing difficult is ever easy!
Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman,
"Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!"
Copeville, Texas
 
Tinker

Guru

Joined: 07/11/2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 1904
Posted: 02:31pm 06 Mar 2012
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

Thanks Mac, looks interesting & small enough for my application. I'll keep it on my list
Klaus
 
Print this page


To reply to this topic, you need to log in.

© JAQ Software 2024