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DaveP68

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Posted: 04:39pm 16 Sep 2015
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Got 880W output @ 1000 RPM (390V 2.26A DC) into big resistor 36 pole stator star configuration.

Yes the above voltage isn't of much use but it is for proof of output power level only. Once cut into half, tirds, quarters, sixths st up as star or delta.

So for example using 4x3 poles aranged in delta mode you can expect around 56V 15.6A 880W at same 1000 RPM. Just a possibility and not necessarily easy to do in real world.

Goes to prove that a 36 pole decogged using black rotor cap is the best configration to use in what ever way you set it up.

I'm working on a simple electronic switching system to be used to charge 12, 24 or 48V battery banks more efficiently. So can control cut in speed and lots power at top end.

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David
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govertical
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Posted: 03:55am 17 Sep 2015
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Hi, can you provide any photos of your test setup. I am having problems aligning the mag cap/rotor to the stator so it will turn freely? Edited by govertical 2015-09-18
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DaveP68

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Posted: 02:26pm 17 Sep 2015
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Hi

Here are some photos of my setup, a standard F&P washing machine bowl removed from a MW511 model.

All I've done is to mount different stators to this same bowl with it's bearing & shaft.



60 series 42 pole wired in delta mode. Note this isn't the same stator used testing the black rotor cap. Rotor cap isn't on in this photo.







As already described, use a 1200W drill to drive rotor cap.

All very simple set up just for testing power output into resistor load only.

Cheers

David
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govertical
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Posted: 02:13am 18 Sep 2015
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Hi, thanks. You are recycling the bearing mounts.Nice. I purchased a F&P; no shaft or bearing, just the rotor and stator; off ebay and I am having great difficulty mounting the mag rotor to spin freely. What method do you use when mounting a different stator? Thanks again for the photos. Edited by govertical 2015-09-19
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govertical
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Posted: 04:49am 18 Sep 2015
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solved problem, using LG stator and rotor

40 to 60 volts DC, using stock stator, fabricated for testing power conversion circuit with manual operation of the PMA
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DaveP68

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Posted: 01:39am 19 Sep 2015
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Hi

I only use the 4 different versions of F&P stators for testing, as they all shear the same type of mount with corresponding shaft with bearings.

What are the electrical characteristics of the LG stator i.e. number of pole (looks like 36) and resistance?
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govertical
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Posted: 02:01am 19 Sep 2015
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Hi, LG stator and Mag rotor: L1 to Gnd about 6.0 ohms, star configuration. At about 60 RPM, DC voltage about 40 at the bridge output, no load. Working on power conversion circuit. I should have test results in a few weeks. I am thinking about adding a gear box.

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