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Chris

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Posted: 11:05am 09 Nov 2005
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Gday ozetrade
If you have a look here http://www.oatleyelectronics.com/kits/Notes/k220.pdf
Alot of your questions are answered.

The two parts on the PCB that arent soldered to that say "Link for 12v use" are if you use a 12v windgen system then you put a wirelink between these two terminals. If you use 24v then leave nothing there.

The six connections are: The left most and right most are the windgenerator input Positive and negative inputs.
The 4 connections in the middle of them are for you dummy loads that you connect up. These prevent your battery from overcharging once it reaches a set voltage the power is sent into there rather then the battery.

The wind generator and the battery as far as i can tell are connected in series with the positive terminal. Im not 100% certain of that, but im pretty sure thats how it works. Wait for Gizmo to verify that.

The adjustment on the board is for setting what voltage your dummy load cuts in at i think (or when your battery is charged)... Not to sure though.

Other then that your soldering looks pretty neat, nice work.
 
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Thanks for helping out there Chris, I dont get much time to answer questions and its good to know I have a few regular visitors who can help others.

Just adding, the extra holes in the PCB are there to suit different shaped pots. The one you got with the kit used the outer hole, but a smalled pot would use the other holes. You soldering looks pretty good! But I dont think that bit of fluff was meant to be there, did it come with the kit?


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Oops, forgot to add...

The regulator works by monitoring the battery voltage. When the voltage gets too high, it connects the dummy load across the battery to drain off some of the excess power.

So the windmill is connected across the battery, and charges it. When the voltage gets to high, the regulator uses its mosfets to connect the dummy load across the battery, thus draining off some of the battery/windmill power.

Glenn


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ozetrade

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Posted: 12:42pm 10 Nov 2005
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Thanks Glenn,

Just need to confirm a couple of things:

  •  - connect NEG DC from windmill
  •  L4 NEG to shunt load
  •  L3 POS to shunt load
  •  L2 NEG to battery
  •  L1 POS to battery 
  •  + connect POS DC from windmill

Connect a bridge at the "Link for 12v use" to use board foe 12v.

Have I got it right?


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Chris

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  Gizmo said  So the windmill is connected across the battery, and charges it. When the voltage gets to high, the regulator uses its mosfets to connect the dummy load across the battery, thus draining off some of the battery/windmill power.

Glenn


Oh so thats how its connected... Thats a pretty good idea when you think about it. Nice and simple...


 
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I'm having trouble following U guys...sorry.

As it stands, the image is my understanding of what your saying.

....am I close? If I'm understanding this correctly, the Windmill DC current is connected directly to the battery. The battery can cope with this because it is self regulating.

The Shunt regulator I have monitors the battery for full charge. When it detects full charge it dumps the load by placing a load on the battery - dump load needs to be at least same capacity as the power the gennie is capable of producing.

The regulator also monitors battery for low voltage and turns off the shunt load so battery can recharge.

Edited by ozetrade 2005-11-12
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Almost.

Connect it like this if you had 4 load's.

And like this for 2. All the outputs L1 to L4 can be connected together if you have just one load resistor. The other side of the load resistors is connected to the +ve terminal.

Glenn


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That 2nd picture, the bottom load should have read "Load2" not "Load3", just to confuse ya.
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ozetrade

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Hey I can actually follow that! 

Thanks Glenn. The concept of connecting directly to the battery was really throwing me - all other regulators I'd looked at, the gen power went into the reg first.


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Greg, make sure the load is big enough to be able to dissipate the full power of the mill. The Oatley instructions probably tell you that already, but just incase...


If anyone's interested, a similar shunt regulator was published in the Jan '94 issue of Silicon Chip magazine. Yer local library might have this mag.

I vaguelly remember there was another one published since then that used kettle elements as the load(its probably normal is it?), if anyone wants to know month/year I can search through my stack of mags for ya.

Simo
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