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anteror
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Posted: 01:30pm 31 Jul 2012

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I have read and wrote to this forum for some time.

My biggest wonder is;

Why do you trie to re envent the wheal, again and again.. ?
Why you do not believe, that you can not make any reasonable power,
with VAWT units etc

There is ready and cheap solutions to really live with wind and
solar.

I have had for 5 years now this;

http://translate.google.fi/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_ t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.poikkis. net%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D5033.0&act=url

It costs about 700-800 $ from;

http://www.huayaturbine.com/

Nowadays you can not get even magnets, with that price to build 2-3kw
windgenerator.
It is made of cast iron and heavy duty.
Blades are silent and allso heavy duty.
Has seen numerous several storms and harsh weather in Finland..
It has made energy for me 200-600Kwh / in month.

Solar panels you can get nowadays under 0,50$ / W.

Ihave now 2750W solar panels.
I get energy 25-80Kwh/ day, with this hybrid system.

I really live with the power of wind and solar !

I recommend you the same feeling..

I celebrate independence day, everyday !

Antero Rantanen
Finland

Edited by anteror 2012-08-01

Downwind

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Posted: 07:16pm 31 Jul 2012

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Where is the fun in just buying something off the shelf when you can build it yourself and then have the satisfaction of reaping the rewards.

There is those of us who have the skills to tackle ones own build, and then there is those who just buy a made unit.
Years ago when some of us started with wind energy there was very little on the market, and what was came at a high price.

A heavy cast construction is not the best design, as weight also plays a big part in how a mill operates.

All said if you are happy with what you have thats great, and its far better than no mill at all.

Sometimes it just works

Madness

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Posted: 07:58pm 31 Jul 2012

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I used to have a very heavy cast iron Dunlite it never had any issues due to it's weight.

There is much greater satisfaction if you built it yourself, in fact it is the ultimate way to be independent.

There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.

domwild
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Posted: 08:01pm 31 Jul 2012

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Antero,

Have to agree with Downwind on that one. When I add up the money I have spent on building my mill, like buying a welder, pedestal drill, huge pop rivet gun, etc. then I could easily have bought the lot and still have money left over.

Long live Suomi!

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brucedownunder2
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Posted: 09:54pm 31 Jul 2012

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Be nice if I could look at the posting ---- (attachment)

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Downwind

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Posted: 12:46am 01 Aug 2012

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[quote]I used to have a very heavy cast iron Dunlite it never had any issues due to it's weight. [/quote]

Its not a issue it creates, its the effect it has.
Weight takes more force to move, then it takes longer to stop once moving, and for a dynamic thing like a mill, it comes into play with its performance.

The little things add up, and is why we build our own mills.
You will find several mill manufactures actually visit this site and use the information provided from the few who "Reinvent the wheel" and build their own mills then post the results, to better improve their own products.

PS.... the links in the OP post works for me.Edited by Downwind 2012-08-02

Sometimes it just works

Gizmo

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Posted: 01:32am 01 Aug 2012

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I agree with Pete, for a lot of us, its the experience of building our own that we want, not so much the end result. By building our own wind turbines we save money, provided we consider our own labour as free. And for many of us, building something like a wind turbine is fun, we get to use our workshop skills and tools, and have something to show for our efforts.

Its true that it would be easier to save our money and buy a commercial turbine, but may people dont think like that. Its like people who modify cars, they could save their money and buy a sports car, or they could take a every day car and modify it to perform as well if not better than a expensive sports car. It's the challenge of building it yourself that's the attraction, not just cost.

Home made VAWT's, its true they are poor performers in most conditions compared to a conventional HAWT ( with a few exceptions ), but they are fun to make and many of us have built one just for the experience.

Glenn

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mac46

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Posted: 01:36pm 01 Aug 2012

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I agree with Pete and Glen,
there is the middle man to cut out of the formula as well. I enjoy the hands on part.

Mac46

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govertical
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Posted: 02:28pm 01 Aug 2012

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Hi, the technology is changing. Not my video, but I like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHx5ZkFBVQ

keep the faith

just because your a GURU or forum administer does not mean your always correct :)

shawn

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Posted: 09:25pm 01 Aug 2012

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I would hate to add up how much I have spent on now dead mills

on the plus side it keeps me busy and you never know one day I might keep one alive
and yes im also off the grid so they are important! but you will not see me admit defeat and buy one.

CraziestOzzy

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Posted: 09:48pm 01 Aug 2012

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DIY is cheaper..
DIY parts are cheaper and easier to replace or repair yourself.
DIY is more reliable and quality (longivity) not constrained by, "you get what you pay for"
DIY allows me to make my own repairs/improvements cheaper and quicker.

If I were to buy something off the shelf, I can guarantee that failure of the item will see it end up as landfill...OEM parts cost more than the failed item itself and also come with "tamper" proof zones to prevent DIY repairs.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/member?u=25757

http://www.instructables.com/member/OzzyRoo/

Madness

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Posted: 10:20pm 01 Aug 2012

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CraziestOzzy said DIY is cheaper..
DIY parts are cheaper and easier to replace or repair yourself.
DIY is more reliable and quality (longivity) not constrained by, "you get what you pay for"
DIY allows me to make my own repairs/improvements cheaper and quicker.

If I were to buy something off the shelf, I can guarantee that failure of the item will see it end up as landfill...OEM parts cost more than the failed item itself and also come with "tamper" proof zones to prevent DIY repairs.

May I add,

DIY is also more fun and

DIY gives great personal satisfaction.

Although it's not for everyone, for those that can't DIY well off the shelf and paying professionals to install it is the way to go.

There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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