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Juri74 Senior Member  Joined: 06/02/2012 Location: ItalyPosts: 162 |
now that's very interesting kickstarter project! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1597902824/agic-print-p rinting-circuit-boards-with-home-print?ref=live |
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OA47 Guru  Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
That is interesting Juri but no support any through hole components. |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
Very clever indeed, and would be great for fast prototypes. Conductive ink is projected to be quite costly at $400 for a 100ml bottle, but having said that, it COULD save you money in the long run if you get a lot of prototype boards made, etc. Very interesting.  Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| MOBI Guru Joined: 02/12/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 819 |
Think I read somewhere that ordinary inkjet ink works out to about $1000 per litre, or at least some ridiculously exorbitant figure. So the conductive ink doesn't work out that expensive and I don't imagine you would be using heaps of the stuff for prototyping. David M. |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2817 |
Can anyone see what resolution they aim to achieve (or minimum track width / spacing? For everything Micromite visit micromite.org Direct Email: whitewizzard@micromite.o |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
The problem is, you have to print a paper at every three days on regular inkjet printers, otherwise it gets dry. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
Yeah, probably. It is reasonably well known that most printers cannot be built for what they sell for, so they sell them at a loss, and make up the difference with several hundred percent mark up on the replacement ink. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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BobD Guru Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
I don't ever run inkjets. They used to drive me to distraction with the ink drying out. As you say about the price of printers, B&W lasers are very cheap now and so is the toner if you don't buy genuine. I bought a 2500 page cartridge for my Brother printer off ePay for AU$16 delivered recently and the big surprise was the seller was in Melbourne Australia. I assume he is making a profit so how much was the original cost from the manufacturer? |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
Trying to unblock blocked injet nozzels is the bane of all inkjet printer owners. I still use inkjet for colour work, as colour lasers are still quite expensive, but to be fair, they(colour laser printers) are coming down in price all the time... I think you can buy a basic B/W laser printer for about $100 new now. I also use the CISS(continuous ink supply system) from the likes of rihac. That saves a fortune on ink, and works really, really well, IMHO. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| BobD Guru Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
Grogster, at this link there are six lasers for under AU$100 including one under $30. mono laser printers Probably the genuine toner costs more than each. |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
Dear God, you're right! 
I wonder how well a $30 printer would work - heck, at that price, so long as it worked at all, it would be cheaper then just about anything else I can think of... Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| BobD Guru Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
At that price you don't buy toner. Usually they have a starter pack which is good for about 600 sheets. If you get 600 then this is 5 cents a sheet. You don't buy toner you buy a stock of printers and toss them when the toner is out. Not sure how it is these days but OfficeWorks delivery charges might be more than the printer. |
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| OA47 Guru Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
That unit quotes a 700 page starter toner. I remember when I had a retail business and the colour lasers were first introduced, it was cheaper for me to buy an HP colour laser printer with full toners and sell the toners individually an scrap the printer carcass even with freight costs. |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6101 |
I hope to stick with my HP laser for a while yet. I would be lost without true network capabilities (and the ability to print to it from any operating system including Windows 3.11) I do cry a bit when I have to buy toners. Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1345 |
Yea I bought a brandnew mono laser mid last year brother HI-2135W wifi one $49 from Harvey Abnormal, I was quoted $50 for a new toner cartridge too. I did buy an Epsom inkjet for the missus for $39 so she could print some colour pic's and we got some decent life out the ink cartridges. We went into a printer shop to get a price on new cartridges and at $80 I said bugger that lets just buy another inkjet. But noway so she bought them and after installing them into the printer NOWAY would it print properly. Even tried it on my shed computer with the printer on the concrete floor and it still came out blurred so that was a waste of good cash but eh try and tell the one that can't be told that inkjet printers are a once only cartridge..... |
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| BobD Guru Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
Bryan, here is a cartridge for your printer at about $16 for 2600 pages. I bought one of these from this guy. TN2250 toner |
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| Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1345 |
Hi Bob, Just had a look at the toner cartridge on my brother mono and the model is DR2225 for the carrier along with TN stamped into the toner cartridge. I just did a quick search on fleabay and found the right one for $18.40 |
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| BobD Guru Joined: 07/12/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 935 |
Byan, I have a HL2270DW and some eBay places were showing the same cart for your printer. Wise always to check. The DR2225 is a drum unit. Only $140 at Officeworks and about $15 on eBay. You would chuck the printer before buying it at that price. Officeworks show the same drum for our printers but different toner cartridges. |
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geraldfryjr Regular Member  Joined: 02/03/2014 Location: United StatesPosts: 61 |
WoW....I have been waiting for something like that for a long time!!! My First print would be a voice coil on some Mylar for a ribbon speaker or maybe some headphone drivers!! Thanks for posting that link!! I bought my Samsung laser ML1865-W three years ago for $49. To bad we can't make a conductive toner for them. 
jer Keep on DIYin' !!!  |
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