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djuqa

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Posted: 02:37pm 27 Feb 2013
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Freescale has introduced the Kinetis KL02, World’s Smallest ARM Powered® Microcontroller



Only 1.9 x 2.0 mm, the Kinetis KL02 MCU features include:

[quote=Freescale]48 MHz ARM Cortex-M0+ core, 1.71-3.6V operation
Bit manipulation engine for faster, more code-efficient handling of peripheral registers
32 KB flash memory, 4 KB RAM
High-speed 12-bit analog-to-digital converter
High-speed analog comparator
Low-power UART, SPI, 2x IICI2C
75cents Cost (in 100k Qty)[/quote]
Link to release page

Can't wait for an ultra compact evaluation board

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JohnS
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Posted: 10:07pm 27 Feb 2013
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A bit like a small PIC32 but fewer peripherals. Not sure why either is interesting LOL

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Because it is small and cheap enough to replace most 8, 12, and 16bit processors.
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JohnS
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Does that not also apply to the cheap PIC32 chips?

Also, does it have 5V-tolerant I/Os?

Other snag I see is that it's Freescale. Reckon they'll be more open? Follow JTAG properly? Provide (free) support? Stick to standards?

Not for me, thanks.

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Similar one (8kB RAM), from NXP:

http://www.nxp.com/news/press-releases/2010/04/nxp-shows-wor ld-s-smallest-32-bit-arm-microcontroller.html

LPC1102/1104
2.17x2.32x0.6 mm
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djuqa

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  pito said   Similar one (8kB RAM), from NXP:


LPC1102/1104
2.17x2.32x0.6 mm
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Thanks

Don't get me wrong, I love the PIC32, but these ARM chips are in a whole different league. Edited by djuqa 2013-03-01
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JohnS
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In what ways?

So far none at all have been mentioned and questions remain unanswered...

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For some embedded applications that amount of grunt in such a small package is impressive. When PIC32 is released in a 3mm Square package, I will be the first to embrace it as well.
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  djuqa said   For some embedded applications that amount of grunt in such a small package is impressive. When PIC32 is released in a 3mm Square package, I will be the first to embrace it as well.


David,

As impressive as these ARM devices are, I cannot see myself using any unless they are attached to a header PCB.. 2mm x 1.9mm is smaller than the 10uf cap that most people are struggling with on the CMM. and it has 20 pins (by looking at the picture) or should I say `BALLS' within that confine.

Is the 1.9x2.0mm size accurate or another example of "the US" not converting imperial to metric correctly?
I cannot say I have ever seen a ruler that split mm any more than into 1/2mm steps and they are hard to distinguish at that.


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  Mick said  Is the 1.9x2.0mm size accurate or another example of "the US" not converting imperial to metric correctly?


I suspect the size is correct as it is referred to as a "wafer level" chip so I guess that mean "un-packaged".

I imagine it is a bit like those "black epoxy blob" chips you see inside digital watches and calculators etc.

Either way, I don't think I'd be having a go at mounting one unless someone came up with a header board and in any case, the 100 pin TQFP is enough for me at the moment.
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In any case it IS exciting... I can see these appearing in eBay and other places mounted on small PCBs with 4 legs as dedicated `do-it thing-a-me-jiggies' to add to your design easily... Say mini maths co-pro with or whatever they are programmed for.

And selling for a couple of shekels including postage.




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Bear in mind it's not very fast and has only small RAM plus very few I/Os. Don't get too excited.

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I have just worked on an ULTRA-Small design using an 8051 Core, the ARM would have been same size but have a lot more grunt.
The PCB for the entire controller had to be less than 6mm x 8mm due to the nature of the module.

JohnS, I provided the info as this is the MicroController section, I thoguht some of the BackShed brigade MAY be interested especially as ARM processors are the most widely used 32Bit MCUEdited by djuqa 2013-03-03
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