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Juri74

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Posted: 04:17am 23 Oct 2012
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look at this link:
http://www.robot-italy.com/it/cui32-pic32mx-development-stic k.html
(contain english description ;) )
may i use that object to build a colour maximite without the pin1 problem of the ubw32?
it is shipped with stickos installed in the PIC

thank you :)Edited by Juri74 2012-10-24
 
ArtBecker
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Posted: 05:26am 23 Oct 2012
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This might be a newer, and cheaper, version:

CUI32 @ Seeed

Check out this other board, too. It was supposed to ship with a different chip, but the first 100 got built with the MX795. There are still 45 in stock. Look at the photos, as opposed to the description. I bought one and was happy to find that the MX795 chip installed. Note it also has a microSD card socket, otherwise it would be even smaller.

Fubarino

Both of these will run StickOS, MMBasic, FreeBSD (Serge will correct me if I am wrong about that), and are Arduino compatible, using the free MPIDE software from chipkit.cc

The downside is that both China Post and Hong Kong post are in a big mess right now, so shipping could be delayed for weeks. Seeed Studio even mailed my last shipment from Singapore.

.Edited by ArtBecker 2012-10-24
 
CircuitGizmos

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  Juri74 said   look at this link:
http://www.robot-italy.com/it/cui32-pic32mx-development-stic k.html
(contain english description ;) )
may i use that object to build a colour maximite without the pin1 problem of the ubw32?
it is shipped with stickos installed in the PIC

thank you :)


If you want to build the Colour Maximite by yourself, this approach costs more. The CGCOLORMAX1 costs the same as that development stick. I think it is good if you want to build from scratch, though - you learn a bit more.
Micromites and Maximites! - Beginning Maximite
 
bigmik

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Posted: 09:33am 23 Oct 2012
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  Juri74 said   look at this link:
http://www.robot-italy.com/it/cui32-pic32mx-development-stic k.html
(contain english description ;) )
may i use that object to build a colour maximite without the pin1 problem of the ubw32?
it is shipped with stickos installed in the PIC

thank you :)


That is for a PIC32MX440 which Is not compatible with MMBasic (at this stage)... As to the Pin(1) problem with the UBW32, if you flash in the Colour Maximite BOOTLOADER you will get Pin(1) to work fine, in fact the UBW32 will become a fully compatible colour Maximite. Have a read of the manual for my UBW32-MCC PCB for a bit more information about it.

UBW32MCC Manual

Regards,

Mick
Edited by bigmik 2012-10-24
Mick's uMite Stuff can be found >>> HERE (Kindly hosted by Dontronics) <<<
 
elproducts

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Posted: 11:23am 23 Oct 2012
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The original CUI32 was based on the PIC32MX440 but discontinued by Sparkfun.
The newer version CUI32 Stem is from Seeedstudio and is based on the 795 but 80 pin version.
I went through the pinout and you could build a B/W Maximite but not a color.

The Fubarino is not a 795 so its not directly Maximite compatible.

So right now if you don't want to solder the 100 pin surface mount 795, the UBW32 and Mick's board is the easiest to build and lowest cost color Maximite option I've seen.

CGColorMax1 looks like it will be a slightly lower cost and fully assembled so that's is another alternative for those that don't want to solder a 100 pin surface mount part.

It's nice to see the various choices popping up.
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ArtBecker
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Posted: 07:30pm 23 Oct 2012
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Too bad none of you bothered to read my post thoroughly. You seem more interested in selling your own products, or pushing your own agenda, than worrying about facts, or helping board members.

The Fubarino does indeed have a PIC32MX795F512H microcontroller installed, as I said in my message.

Yes, the product description says it has a PIC32MX440F256H installed, which is not compatible with MM Basic. This is the "different chip" that I referred to my in message, which you didn't bother to read. But it does indeed actually ship with the PIC32MX795F512H installed, as shown by all the product photos. Had you bothered to follow the advice I posted, and looked at the photos, instead of just the description, you would have seen this. And I can verify it as I have one sitting on my desk in front of me.

As I said in my message, the first 100 were manufactured with the PIC32MX795F512H installed, which does indeed run StickOS, MMBasic, and FreeBSD. So far only 100 have been produced. Thus the ones being sold by Seeed Studio contain the PIC32MX795F512H. Brian Schmalz is a co-designer of the Fubarino, and the designer of the UBW32.

I never said that either board would run the color version. The first link I posted was to helpfully inform the original poster of an updated version of the CIU32, and the second link was to helpfully tell everyone of an inexpensive way to make a Maximite clone, with microSD card feature.

But I can see that posting useful informative messages on the Back Shed is a waste of time, as the more vocal members, who have their own vested interests, or personal hatred of me, object to it. As is always the case, no good deed ever goes unpunished.

 
bigmik

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Posted: 10:22pm 23 Oct 2012
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  ArtBecker said   Too bad none of you bothered to read my post thoroughly. You seem more interested in selling your own products, or pushing your own agenda, than worrying about facts, or helping board members.
But I can see that posting useful informative messages on the Back Shed is a waste of time, as the more vocal members, who have their own vested interests, or personal hatred of me, object to it. As is always the case, no good deed ever goes unpunished.



Hi Art,

If you are referring to me I have to respond to you as I feel you are being a bit `over the top'

Firstly you said the first 100 were made with the 795H processor... That infers to me that it was a mistake... Also My response was made to Juri74's request about COLOUR MM on the board which it IS not (currently and may not EVER be) compatible with Colour MMBasic.. As to pushing my products... well let me say I am making NO money and have not entered into any agreement (yet) to make money from my PCB and my sole reason for referring Juri to the manual was to see the information about Pin(1) on the UBW...

If it was me you are referring to please read my comments and if you still feel the same then I am sorry but I will just have to disagree with you.. As to posting informative messages on TBS, I think that I generally try to offer advice to ANYONE who is in strife.. If I have anything to add I WILL.. I dont believe that I push my own Barrow or am self promoting especially as I have nothing to promote. ....

If you have an issue with me please PM me I am happy to respond, I am happy to retract if I am wrong.

Kind Regards,

Mick


Mick's uMite Stuff can be found >>> HERE (Kindly hosted by Dontronics) <<<
 
elproducts

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Posted: 01:49am 24 Oct 2012
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  ArtBecker said   I never said that either board would run the color version.


That's the whole point. Apparently you don't read either. Juri74 originally asked:
"may i use that object to build a colour maximite without the pin1 problem of the ubw32?"

Yet all your answers included modules that cannot be used to make a Colour Maximite, only B/W. So all you did was add confusion.

All the posts I read after yours attempted to clarify on the best choices for making a Colour Maximite to help eliminate any confusion.

So before you accuse others of personal attacks (which your the only one who seems to be doing it as you've done to me on other posts) you might want to get you're facts straight and read the original question before posting:
  ArtBecker said   useful informative messages on the Back Shed

www.elproducts.com
 
CircuitGizmos

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Posted: 04:36am 24 Oct 2012
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  bigmik said  
If you are referring to me I have to respond to you as I feel you are being a bit `over the top'


I wouldn't worry that is was so much you. Likely was me, as he inferred on another thread that I was not a reputable company and then complained that my company "refuses to sell to all forum members equally" since I didn't include the Philippines as a shipping destination.

I went to the trouble of adding the Philippines and immediately got a veritable avalanche of ZERO orders from the Philippines for any of my products. Oh well at least I'm trying to be 'fair'.

I'm not sure why he is bitter, Mick, but I'm sure he will continue to complain about the only two forum members to step up and provide some sort of Colour Maximite engineering/PCB solution.
Micromites and Maximites! - Beginning Maximite
 
jdh2550
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Posted: 04:56am 24 Oct 2012
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OK this is totally pointless but I can't resist... (no self control!)

@Art - as someone who is not pushing a product and dislikes when folks abuse boards entirely to just push products I too get somewhat po'd when it happens. However, you seem to be overly aggressive in your response, and, more importantly completely misguided.

(a) Both bigmik and circuitgizmos appear to be "upstanding members of the community" - they actively post helpful information. Look at the context and the background before casting aspersions.

(b) your assertion that they're only interested in personal gain is absurd and clearly false by CG's first post where he says "I think it is good if you want to build from scratch, though - you learn a bit more." which is counter to selling his own product. And both Mick (& Don) aren't going to get rich selling bare PCBs for $8 a pop.

(c) if CG is right and that the background is that you really have a beef with his business for whatever reason - don't spread that into other unrelated threads. Be a grown up and address him directly and seek a resolution (it sounds like he's tried to respond fairly to some of your prior criticism - how about congratulating him for that?)

(d) your assertion that they weren't helpful because they didn't answer the question has been handled by elproducts but in all of the replies so far the most direct answer has been somewhat lost. The answer to the question asked is simply "No". All parties (including you) went one step further to try and help - it's up to the reader to decide how helpful any one of the three of you actually were.

(e) as a new hobbyist in this domain space I find it very interesting and encouraging for vendors to take an active role in the boards - please don't disuade them from doing so. We're all grown ups and we can decide for ourselves if someone is just shilling for their own gain.

(f) elproducts seems to be a harmless bystander that got caught in your crossfire. I guess by his name that he's a vendor of something! However, he wasn't pushing his own product...

@bigmik, @circuitgizmos & @elproducts - keep on keeping on...

Yeah - I know this was a pointless post - sorry - I'll try and keep 'em to a minimum!Edited by jdh2550 2012-10-25
 
jdh2550
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  Juri74 said   look at this link:
http://www.robot-italy.com/it/cui32-pic32mx-development-stic k.html
(contain english description ;) )
may i use that object to build a colour maximite without the pin1 problem of the ubw32?
it is shipped with stickos installed in the PIC

thank you :)

No, you can't use that device to easily create a colour maximite.

Technically, it's possible, but probably not worth the effort.
 
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  jdh2550 said  
@bigmik, @circuitgizmos & @elproducts - keep on keeping on...


Have to thoroughly agree here - I've only ever seen useful stuff from these members. Given the very limited returns they might get from "their products", the effort they put in to provide those things and the access they freely give to their expertise way outweighs any negatives - which I've yet to see.
 
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