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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : Arduino X
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Somebody knows about Arduino X board? It seems that is a board equipped with Atmel ARM microcontroller as Arduino Due. Atmel is reffering it in ASF (Arduino Software Framework) documentation. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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ronee Newbie Joined: 08/01/2012 Location: CanadaPosts: 20 |
Some pics here http://www.flickr.com/photos/robotgrrl/sets/7215762985544407 6/ Ron |
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djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
Thanks Ronee Clickable link VK4MU MicroController Units |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Yeah, probably identical with DUE, but different microcontroller. Atmel refers at those as separate boards, DUE and X. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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graynomad Senior Member Joined: 21/07/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 122 |
I don't know where the X comes from but that board is a Due with a SAM3X8E, as has been the case for some time. EDIT: Originally the Due was going to use a different SAM3 (the U I think), maybe the X refers to what was going to be a second version using the X8E but they have since been merged. ______ Rob Rob Gray, AKA the Graynomad, www.robgray.com |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
That may be the case, thank you guys! Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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graynomad Senior Member Joined: 21/07/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 122 |
It's interesting to see that Atmel is officially supporting Arduino though. One school of thought over in Arduino land is that Atmel pressured them to swap processors so they could show off the new X8E, but the chip is still not readily available and that's why we're seeing such a delay with the Due. ______ Rob Rob Gray, AKA the Graynomad, www.robgray.com |
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ernie Newbie Joined: 18/03/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 14 |
What ever happened to the Arduino Due? They handed out 100 of the first batch to developers back in May, then nothing, not a peep about it since. |
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graynomad Senior Member Joined: 21/07/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 122 |
Word (well rumour) is that it may be released at the NY Maker Faire in a few days on the 29th. After all this time though people are very sceptical. ______ Rob Rob Gray, AKA the Graynomad, www.robgray.com |
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djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
It may have to be renamed the Arduino OVERdue VK4MU MicroController Units |
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graynomad Senior Member Joined: 21/07/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 122 |
he he, yep I used that line a while back on the Arduino forum :) It's certainly taking an unDue amount of time. ____ Rob Rob Gray, AKA the Graynomad, www.robgray.com |
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elproducts Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: United StatesPosts: 282 |
Arduino DUE announced at Maker Faire New York. $49.00 available October 22. ARM based. Youtube video below. It's about an hour long. One of the more interesting topics is at the end when he talks about open source. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TZQt9lTAOU www.elproducts.com |
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graynomad Senior Member Joined: 21/07/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 122 |
[quote]It's about an hour long. [/quote] Ooo, bit long for my data plan :) I gather there was nothing of substance, ie. real details about features, the new IDE etc. Is that the case? _____ Rob Rob Gray, AKA the Graynomad, www.robgray.com |
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elproducts Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: United StatesPosts: 282 |
They talked about changes to the IDE that it will make it easier to add other compilers and platforms to the IDE but I'm not sure what they meant as they didn't go into much detail. I assume they mean the IDE can be modified to support chipKIT, netduino or other arduino style modules but don't know for sure. They also mentioned that a version of DUE would have internet embedded in the module with a future release chip. Again not much detail. They had the designer of the Atmel AVR talk but I fast forwarded through that as it appeared to be an Atmel commercial rather than an Arduino update. That took about half the time. www.elproducts.com |
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graynomad Senior Member Joined: 21/07/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 122 |
Thanks, that's a lot more info than has been posted on the Arduino forum so far. ______ Rob Rob Gray, AKA the Graynomad, www.robgray.com |
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DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
One point that Massimo Banzi stated is that a user can take a 8 Arduino AVR application and recompile it for a 32 bit ARM Due application and it will work. This would be an incredible amazing feat if it really does indeed work? No wonder why there was a delay of one year releasing the hardware - software was probably the cause of this delay? Also, the price of $49 USD is 1/2 what I expected for a 32 bit ARM board. |
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elproducts Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: United StatesPosts: 282 |
chipKIT takes a file for the 8-bit Arduino and programs a PIC32 so its been done before, just not for ARM. chipKIT is almost 1/2 that price at $26.95 so it seems a bit high to me. The cost of a 32 bit vs 8 bit is not that big of a difference that it should be $20 more than the standard Arduino. There must be more to the story which may help explain the year long delay. It should be interesting to see all the details when its released. www.elproducts.com |
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DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
If you consider the chipKit board, when it first came out, Diligent hardly had any workable libraries for their 32 bit PIC board. It took them forever and not all the Arduino libraries are ported. Leaflab's "Maple" tried and failed to port all the Arduino libraries to their 32 bit STM ARM chip. Maybe the italians can do better job on their "first" try in releasing their 32 bit DUE ARM? BTW ... there is a 32 bit ARM board via Kickstarter and it is called Teensy 3.0 for $26 USD. The project's author is now porting the Arduino libraries for this "Arudino non-form factor" 32 bit ARM (Freescale) microcontroller stamp. Software quality is always the key in any project completion or failure. |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Indeed that was a stupid idea to release the board (ChipKit) without examples and library support. They lost a lot of potential customers that way. Maybe they will start to regain some of them when all the software and libraries will be completed. Ha! They expected community to jump in and start developing libraries for the board!!! How to do that when the majority (let's remember that those kind of boards are designed for artists and students) didn't knew what was that PIC32 thing (me included)??? If Due is delivered with all the libraries and examples (at least, the same as the official Arduino AVR) then, my hat off. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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elproducts Senior Member Joined: 19/06/2011 Location: United StatesPosts: 282 |
Good point. Maybe thats why they said there were so many changes to the IDE but couldn't really detail it. It involved modifying the compiler. www.elproducts.com |
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