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vasi

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Posted: 11:11am 24 Aug 2011
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... for PIC32 project is lead by Microchip himself. Until now another "partner" was used as a cover. At least, at the beginning of the project. The Mikroelektronika confirmation is or a mistake, or Microchip consider the project a success and don't want to hide anymore:

[quote]... We were visited by a dozen attendees who enjoyed their afternoon beer, and we were visited by some important people from Microchip, including Mr. Mark Spraul, head of the Arduino Project for PIC32, ...[/quote]

The entire comment is on youtube page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITS804k0r8g
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  vasi said  
The entire comment is on youtube page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITS804k0r8g


Thanks Vasi, an interesting insight into MikroElektronika. I have dealt with them for years, so it's nice to see some faces.

I didn't realize that Microchip had such a big interest in Arduino via the PIC32.

Cheers Don...




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vasi

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It happens to know a little more but I can't put the info online .
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  vasi said   It happens to know a little more but I can't put the info online .


I know what you mean Vasi.

I too have problems like this.

Cheers Don...
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vasi

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mikroElektronika at Masters 2011 in Phoenix - Day 4

Well I would like a free sample of UNI-DS6 board with each of his own mikroboards.
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vasi

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In this last movie you can see how mikroElektronika is returning home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDtpKe_uqk

Vasi

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Now, they will amaze us with some new, more practical development boards.Edited by vasi 2011-09-03
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Thanks for the cool video links Vasi.

Really enjoyed the travels of mikroElektronika.

Tea in beer bottles?

Cheers Don...
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I would liked to see a movie from a neutral party.
From Chipkit forums:
[quote=chariotdriver]I have a brand new UNO32 just purchased at the Microchip Masters conference. [/quote]
mikroElektronika is very aggressive regarding to their boards. I had a link to my FreeJALduino board as a signature on their forums. The link was removed and they told me in private that I'm not allowed to do that, unless it was about a mikroElektronika board. Then, they started to deliver boards with bootloaders
Judge for yourself

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wizard

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It will be interesting to see if Microchip can
figure out how to be a real part of the open source world?

Somehow doing your own private IDE as a manufacturer seems to get
a company addicted.

Consider company X (Xilinx)! Hard to use, harder to design in! That said, I
have a dual MIPS with 64MB ddr working well in a fairly small chip! Along with
video, audio, picoblazes, etc. Pretty amazing.

Now, if it just washed the dishes :).

Wiz
 
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If you didn't play with electronics so much you might be able to find a girlfriend, and she could wash the dishes. Speaking from experience, of course.

Rob

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wizard

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Hi Haiqu,

Yes, my wife sometimes thinks I should find a girl friend to wash dishes, etc.

I usually resist saying what I might otherwise say... Not that you would have
any idea about those sorts of things of course .

If those women would just do what I want....

Lots of fun!
Wiz
 
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  donmck said  
  vasi said  
The entire comment is on youtube page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITS804k0r8g


Thanks Vasi, an interesting insight into MikroElektronika. I have dealt with them for years, so it's nice to see some faces.

I didn't realize that Microchip had such a big interest in Arduino via the PIC32.

Cheers Don...



Vasi and Don,

The chipKIT modules from Digilent are the Microchip official answer to Arduino.
Microchip owns the name chipKIT.
The hardware is designed by Digilent Inc. The software was done by the Fubar Hackerspace.
This is public knowledge per the press release by Microchip.

http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/chipKIT-Developme nt-Platform.html

I've released the first official book on chipKIT "Getting Started with chipKIT " available at Amazon and several other places.

The MPIDE used with chipKIT to write and program the chipKIT was built from the open source Arduino IDE code. This was done by Rick Anderson and the Bootloader and internal embedded code was developed by Mark Sproul. Rick and Mark are part of the FUBAR Hakerspace in New Jersey and extremely talented guys.

I was at the Master's conference and met with the MikroE guys on various topics. They had a lot of activity at their booth. I've used their compilers in the past and have considered doing books on them. There were also other suppliers showing Arduino compatible options for PICs at the conference. MikroE offers both BASIC and C compilers for the PIC32 so that is a great option for direct programming.

Now going further,
If you download the current chipKIT MPIDE and look under the tools menu you will see lots of PIC32 based boards supported outside the chipKIT. This includes several MikroE boards. This was all done by Mark so all these boards will work with the chipKIT/Arduino style code.
This is why I say the new Olimex boards will not be far behind as all it takes is to get Mark a set of boards and he will make them compatible with the MPIDE.

The MPIDE runs on Windows, MAC and Linux so this allows any of these supported boards to be programmed from with just about any computer. It uses the Arduino C style but its very easy to use.
What the MikroE boards don't have is Arduino style connection headers for shields as they offer plug in peripheral modules similar to what Olimex has planned with their expansion connector.
Because the Olimex boards have the shield headers they are even more compatible across all platforms and why I say they bring it all together; chipKIT/Arduino, MMBASIC, direct programming.

Very exciting time for the electronic hacker/hobbyist as its almost all open sourced.




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Thanks for the heads up on the MPIDE Chuck,

It is a whole new world, and it has been passing me by.
Nice to have forum members like yourself and Vasi on board, to get me up to date at lightning speed.

Cheers Don...
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vasi

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Microchip should add their "original" Arduino and Android board named "PIC24F Accessory Development Starter Kit for Android"

The only advantage is that is rated at a minimum of 10,000 erase/write cycles - 10 times more than PIC32...

And, if you look at the photo on that page, and compare with the board from the movie, you will see that they made a little design mistake (well, regarding to ergonomics), corrected later. It happens also at the big houses,
And the design is Microchip specific: those LEDs, potentiometer and switches at the end of the board (you can see that on a lot of demo boards).
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vasi

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Well, Arduino it was from the beginning a board for students and artists and the professionals looked at it with indulgence. The system surely have some flaws as noise and maybe some electrical contact problems in time but is what a beginner with low budget want to have: a single board for a lot of applications.

When Google entered the game with his Android kit, I said on Jallib forums that he prolonged ("the Ring gave him unnatural long life") the life of the Arduino and stated the connector as a standard, shattering any doubt about that. Now, Olimex, Microchip and Digilent are part of Arduino movement (calming some fanatics - Arduino is for every platform).

Just let them come (with lower prices, of course).

Vasi

P.S. What professionals would say?
[quote="A pro"]It's the Ring. You can't take your eyes off it. I've seen you. You're not eating. You barely sleep. It's taking a hold of you, Mr Frodo. You have to fight it![/quote]Edited by vasi 2011-09-07
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