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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : Permission sought for distributing your MMBasic games
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thwill Guru  Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4048 |
Hi folks, I'm still alive and making an asymptotic approach to unveiling MMB4L v0.7-alpha.1, I won't say when since I've missed a couple of intended release dates already  .I would like to accompany the release with a (separate) archive of programs (games) I have tweaked to work with it and would thus like permission from their authors to include the following: - @Geoffg - Pico-Blocks - Pico-Man - @LeoNicolas - Knightmare - @Martin H - 3D Maze - 3D Monster Maze - Gems-N-Rocks - Pico-Frog - Pico-Vaders - @Volhout - Circle One - Flappy Bird - PETSCII Robots I am aware that at least two of these are not considered "complete" by their authors, but that doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother them. Best wishes, Tom Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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Geoffg Guru Joined: 06/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 3208 |
OK with me. Geoff Geoff Graham - http://geoffg.net |
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Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1117 |
Hello Tom, that's ok for me 'no comment |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4271 |
Hi Tom, I feel honoured. Yes, you have my blessing. Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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Quazee137 Guru Joined: 07/08/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 576 |
Eagerly awaiting MMB4L v0.7-alpha.1 THANKS for this work. Quazee137 |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4271 |
Tom, Using MMB4L 0.6 every day now. Very stable. Looking forward to graphics in 0.7, although 0.6 is a big help. Especially since it is very compatible with pico when used without graphics. I can develop the core algorithmms in MMB4L then simple port to pico. Then add UI. For one project I ported from MMB4L to DOS MMBasic. But then there where some commands missing (i.e. CHOICE, INC) in the DOS version. And the syntax for opening serial ports was different. the DOS version strictly uses the DOS format OPEN COMx:baud,n,8,1 and without parameters the port is in 7 bits. MMB4L defaults to 8 bits, and can use ODD/EVEN. It would have been easier to port to MMB4W I guess. But MMB4W is a real power beast. It empties my laptop battery in 1.5 hours. This may be related to the graphics framerate Peter wants to achieve. Not suitible for sessions in a certification lab (needs minimum 4 hours shifts). But it is fine on ta desktop. I am curious how power hungry MMB4L 0.7 will be .. Volhout Edited 2024-11-19 17:35 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4048 |
Hi @GeoffG, @Martin H & @Volhout, Thanks for the permissions, I will try to do them justice. Thank you for the encouragement. I'm pleased it is working out for you. I think the syntax and defaults match the CMM2, or possibly the PicoMite, whichever was my muse at the time. If not then let me know and I will dig further. As I recall MMB4W thrashes the processor like a high-performance videogame even when sitting at the BASIC prompt. MMB4L v0.6.0 is more forgiving using only (on my laptop) a small fraction of the CPU time under those circumstances; this may simply be because MMB4L briefly sleeps its process if the program asks for an input character and none is available. In addition MMB4L will often make a series of micro sleeps when you use the PAUSE command whereas I think MMB4W just spins the processor. In theory with MMB4L v0.7.0 provided you don't use the graphics (or audio) it should not be any more "power hungry" than v0.6.0. However if you start the graphics up then I suspect it will be similar to MMB4W unless you have some PAUSEs in your code. Note that a significant way that MMB4L v0.7.0 will differ from MMB4W is that it continues to use the Linux terminal as its console instead of creating a graphics window for that purpose; currently PRINT will always go to the console and you need to use TEXT to write to a window. Working with it is a bit like using a serial terminal (the console) connected to a Pico with an LCD (the graphics window). Best wishes, Tom Edited 2024-11-20 00:07 by thwill Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4271 |
Hi Tom, Opening serial ports: MMB4L synctax is similar to picomite. Only you use /dev/ttyUSBx in stead of COMx, and lacks the INV option. B.t.w. I run MMB4L at 921600 baud and no issues. DOS MMBasic tries to mimic MSDOS/GWBASIC syntax, that is strict in single character definitions. MMB4L:  Volhout Edited 2024-11-20 00:07 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3820 |
Is the part "If any one parameter is left out ..." correct? I'm thinking it ought to be OK to omit params so long as the right number of commas are used for MMB4L to cope. John |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4048 |
I'm not sure, and to be honest I'm not going to test it just at the moment when there is only one user other than myself who seems quite happy  . The difference may be that the comspec$ is a string to be interpreted not a series of MMBasic language tokens.Best wishes, Tom Edited 2024-11-20 00:36 by thwill Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3820 |
No problem - I was just wondering if the manual needed correcting. John |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4048 |
The image @Volhout posted is from either the CMM2 or PicoMite manual I think, though the MMB4L README says something similar: https://github.com/thwill1000/mmb4l/blob/main/README.md#open Best wishes, Tom Edited 2024-11-20 00:56 by thwill Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4271 |
Tom, John, In Linux you can create an alias for /dev/ttyUSBx using symlinks in /etc/udev/rules.d/ So it is totally possible to create an alias called COM1 Volhout Edited 2024-11-20 00:59 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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LeoNicolas Guru Joined: 07/10/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 479 |
Tom, it's ok for me. My game is to be played  |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4048 |
Thank you @LeoNicolas, that makes me 4 for 4 on permissions so the ball is all in my court now. Best wishes, Tom Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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