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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : PIC pattern for DIPTRACE
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OA47 Guru  Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
Can anyone direct me to a pattern of the PIC32MX150F128B for DIPTRACE schematics ? Thanks |
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MicroBlocks Guru Joined: 12/05/2012 Location: ThailandPosts: 2209 |
I have component and patterns of it. I will put them here when i have packaged it. Are you familiar with Diptrace? Microblocks. Build with logic. |
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| OA47 Guru Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
Thanks again Jean.  |
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| OA47 Guru Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
I have been using a local Protel product for many years and I am learning Diptrace as an alternative. GM |
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palcal Guru Joined: 12/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1873 |
I have been using Diptrace and I like it, but I find the library very hard to use. It seems you have to know the part number to get the pattern you need. I also use circuit wizard for small projects and it has a library of generic parts, you just grab a resistor or capacitor or whatever. Trying to find a 26 pin connector for the Micromite is impossible in Diptrace and also is finding the pattern for a 28 pin ZIF socket, and most other parts. Maybe I just don't know how to use it properly. Paul. "It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" |
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| Keith W. Senior Member  Joined: 09/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 118 |
Palcal, I can remember starting out, you will get into it. I have created my own Pattern and Component Libraries. With each project they grow and I now have 95% of the components I use ready to hand in the Keith Library, just about 100 components now from resistors and capacitors to transistors, regulators and IC’s. It’s like buying a new tool every new job. The last things added included 28 pin ZIF socket, Micromite, screw terminal strips and MOSFET and MOSFET Driver and 0.1 connectors. Because I have been using toner transfer etching, my pad sizes are conservative and I was not satisfied with many readymade components, though I might use the schematic from a component. I noticed on my last couple of projects that I can create a component in a minute or so. By reutilizing the premade shapes or components from my library I can create new ones quickly. If you are interested you may have a copy of my libraries which are easily added, they will just blend into the system when you put them into the related directory and appear in the list of libraries. You may not like my pad sizes of course, but you can edit them on the pattern then save again. When you do this you must attach the new pattern to the component and save the component library again. It becomes second nature eventually. Keith W. |
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| MicroBlocks Guru Joined: 12/05/2012 Location: ThailandPosts: 2209 |
Greame, Here is a zip file with components and patterns. I just started re-organizing everything and this is the start of it. Collecting parts and patterns that you use the most into your own library is much more convenient to use. 2014-03-14_172131_MicroBlocks.zip Microblocks. Build with logic. |
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| Keith W. Senior Member Joined: 09/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 118 |
Thank you TZAdvantage When I tried to add your libraries Diptrace would not acknowledge their presence, indicating incorrect format, but then discovered that my version was from 2011. Have updated my Diptrace and now all correct. The new version seems OK with my Keith library also. I had not put my library on thebackshed as thought too big a file but now find that it compresses to a small fraction of the size by Zip so now post it. Note that I do not send PCB files out to have boards made hence the drill sizes etc should be checked if you use my components. My library is a bit scrambled; it requires sorting into component type order to make searching it quicker. Currently you can trace the order of my projects. My library is predominantly through-hole; I use the generic SMD library otherwise. 2014-03-14_233055_KeithPat.zip Keith W. |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Hi Keith, Thanks for the library! Indeed, pads are a little bigger and won't allow a trace between them when is about TO220 (by example). Also. I see you have the center of the component on one of the pins - that won't help if some one want a 3D representation (maybe a client of yours). I mean, is possible to manually modify the position of the assigned 3D model by hand, but is a lot of work. Anyway, it is very good for toner transfer. Personally, I'm importing the components from Eagle (those are tested for both production and toner transfer and looks awesome). Also, I'm using some 3D parts from KiCAD. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| OA47 Guru Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
Vasi, how are you importing the parts? GM |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Paul, just a quick look inside PCB libraries: in GENERAL library you can find the HDRC-2x13 pattern. On the schematic side, PIC24HJ32GP202_SP is pin compatible with MicroMite. For a 28pin ZIF pattern, this can be imported from Eagle 5.1x (don't know if the conversion scripts offered by Novarm can deal with Eagle 6.x) Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Give me some time, I'm in Linux now... Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
OK, some fast advices: - In Utils subfolder of DipTrace you will find two files with .ulp extension - those are Eagle user scripts and must be copied into ulp subfolder of Eagle; - Create a new project in Eagle (both schematic and pcb) and insert there all the components you want to export (no need to make connections). Launch the .ulp script specific to schematic and pcb and export into ASCII diptrace; Now we are done with Eagle, we go to DipTrace: - Create in Component editor a new library named Eagle. Save it! It will contain an untitled component. Let it be. - Create in Pattern editor a new library named Eagle. Save it! It will have the same default pattern. Let it be. - Open schematic. Add the Eagle library from the Library setup - it will appear at the end list of your libraries (in toolbar). Select the library to make it active - you will see the untitled component. Import the Diptrace ASCII schematic exported with Eagle. You should see all the schematic components - right-click with your mouse on every component and save them to the active library. - Do the same steps with the pcb. Now, this is for Paul: 2014-03-15_072258_zif_28_40.zip P.S. The export scripts from last version (not beta) of DipTrace works well with Eagle 6.5 (managed to do all the tests and zif library under linux with wine) Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Your Eagle library can increase in size in no time. It is wise to create libraries with the same name as in Eagle, prefixed with Eagle name to avoid conflicts. For the 3D objects, DipTrace use the same format as KiCAD (possibly, Novarm used the KiCAD sources to get inspired). Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| palcal Guru Joined: 12/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1873 |
Thanks Keith & Vasi for the Diptrace Lib. As you say Keith very easy to do yourself I just hadn't tried cause it looked too hard. Paul. "It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" |
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