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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : TQFP Programming Jig

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MOBI
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Posted: 11:28pm 16 Feb 2014
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Hello all, has anyone on TBS used or made a jig for programming a TQFP chip without soldering the chip onto a board?

If not, I'll have a go at it.

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Posted: 03:59am 17 Feb 2014
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I use the leads from my 16 port logic analyzer to hook up all the needed pins.
It actually worked.



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Geoffg

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Posted: 04:20am 17 Feb 2014
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I have programmed a TQFP chip using an old Maximite board with the programming header soldered in. I just held the chip in place with my finger while it was being programmed. I have heard of others using a cloths peg.

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Posted: 05:16am 17 Feb 2014
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I have order one of these and also a 64 and 100 pin version. Not really cheap but i hope very convenient:


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JohnL
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Posted: 10:31am 17 Feb 2014
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  Quote  I have order one of these and also a 64 and 100 pin version. Not really cheap but i hope very convenient:




I have received 3 of these yesterday, look really good, socket is actually made in Japan. Socket is soldered to a wide DIL board and that board plugs into a board with narrower DIL pins.
 
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Posted: 11:04am 17 Feb 2014
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not really cheap
 
Grogster

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Posted: 12:32pm 17 Feb 2014
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  plasma said   not really cheap


No, not really. But I suppose it depends on how many chips you think you are going to program. If you think that you will need to pre-program 100 chips, then this thing would be well worth the money.

If you only need to program-as-you-go, then most people(myself included) would just solder in the virgin chip, then once the board is assembled, program it.

It all depends on what you need.
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Geoffg

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Posted: 12:39pm 17 Feb 2014
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Perhaps slightly off-topic but if you need to pre-program 100 chips Microchip will do it for you as part of your order. It only adds a little to the cost and a few days to the delivery but it is very convenient.

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MOBI
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Posted: 11:24pm 17 Feb 2014
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I was really only thinking of programming the odd chip for putting in an envelope and posting and was wondering if anyone had built a simple unit for us simple types.

I have tossed around a few mental designs on our 7 hour drive home today. It might take a while to come up with something but I'll keep you posted if I succeed or not.

I checked the interweb but only came up with elaborate units using pogo pins etc and lots of questions also expensive.

I'll see how I go mounting a locating frame to a breakout board and pressing the chip onto the pads. I've got 20 or so B/O boards so I can afford to damage one or two. If I can do it on 100pin TQFP then lower pin counts should be a breeze.
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JohnL
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Posted: 01:27pm 18 Feb 2014
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David,

This is the socket with DIL adapter boards.
Socket is high precision Yamaichi brand from Japan with gold plated contacts.

http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6015827930.html

I bought 3 of them for convenience of programming as well as development.

I can pop a chip inside and know that it is going to sit precisely with all contacts made. It is a production grade socket that will last a long time.

Time and no frustration is far more important to me than $28.



 
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Posted: 01:48pm 18 Feb 2014
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  JohnL said  
This is the socket with DIL adapter boards.
Socket is high precision Yamaichi brand from Japan with gold plated contacts.


It is an impressive socket and at a reasonable price and certainly worth it if one was to do production/development work.

In my case, it is a challenge to see if it can be done in "the back shed".

I had a bit of a play with a break out board and a steel rule to see if I could get the 100 pin TQFP lined up easily and I can. It shouldn't be too difficult to mount a couple of pieces of PCB material at 90deg on one corner of the foot print and "simply" slide the chip into the corner and press down with finger whilst programming. I might have to etch a pad with just the required pins for programming so that I can get a bit more spring in the chip legs.

I don't necessarily WANT one, just see if it can be done. Some one else might have a better idea or modify mine. After all, the forum is for swapping ideas. Happy experimenting.


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