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CircuitGizmos

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Posted: 08:23pm 22 Jan 2012

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Updated Beginning Maximite version 0.6 available for download.

Includes schematics and improved tech information. Better TOC and Index.

Darn it if life isn't interfering with adding the necessary projects to this document. I hope to get to version 1.0 with all of the projects and pictures included.

This document has MMBasic commands and functions grouped differently than the official MMBasic manual. As they are grouped by gross function (as I see them) it might be a reasonable second study for the language.

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Posted: 04:22am 23 Jan 2012

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Wow! I'm impressed!

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Posted: 12:06pm 23 Jan 2012

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Thanks, Nick!

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Posted: 11:05pm 23 Jan 2012

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Can the MMIDE be used with the Duinomite-mini? WIth the earlier MMBasic? Or which version of the MMBasic does it require should be the way I ask I guess?

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The DM-mini is a variant of the DM so I expect you'd use a DM Basic. It likely (as in: I'd be amazed if not) is pre-programmed with it. I expect the IDE works - can't see why not.

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Posted: 11:54pm 23 Jan 2012

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I have a DM-Mini and DM-Basic / MMIDE works perfectly fine with it.

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Be aware that the DM mini pin out and the MMIDE/CGMMSTICK1 pin outs are different. The MMIDE program was designed to support the CGMMSTICK1 which is a "Maximite". Edited by CircuitGizmos 2012-01-25

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Posted: 06:51am 24 Jan 2012

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CircuitGizmos said Be aware that the DM mini pin out and the MMIDE/CGMMSTICK1 pin outs are different. The MMIDE program was designed to support the CGMMSTICK1 which is a "Maximite".

I would say it's quite opposite ;)
DM-mini GPIO connector is exactly same as the Maximite connector i.e. pinout is same
your stick connector is totally different from the original Maximite connector so it's not Maximite compatible, just runs MM-BASIC

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Olimex said

CircuitGizmos said Be aware that the DM mini pin out and the MMIDE/CGMMSTICK1 pin outs are different. The MMIDE program was designed to support the CGMMSTICK1 which is a "Maximite".

Exactly Correct

Edited by djuqa 2012-01-25

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Posted: 08:01am 24 Jan 2012

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OH dear! Their at it again, my toys are better than your toys, they both run MM basic so who cares if the way the pins are brought out is different you use what pins you need for your own project.
Both systems have a for and against, you live with what you have.

Just an interesting aside I have an LM335 temperature sensor connected to a SM1 MM board, when first switched it takes a couple of minutes to settle and the agree with 3 other stand alone temperature meters. After this short period it the tracks the other sensors exactly. All sensors are in close proximity, the circuit is the standard using a 1.8K resistor from the 5volt rail.

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Posted: 08:10am 24 Jan 2012

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They're not really "at it" when someone corrects an error.

I for one would not want factually incorrect data left for future users to read and then regret. I could easily be that user!

John

Edit by admin...

Yes agreed, it was a factual correction and not promoting one or the other.

GlennEdited by Gizmo 2012-01-25

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Hi Gizmos
Do you have a detail dwg showing the distance from the 1st hole to the edge of the board and from the last hole (no 30) to the edge, metric or imperial does not matter.
I want to see if the board will fit a project I have in mind.
Thanks
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The question was asked: "Can the MMIDE be used with the Duinomite-mini?"

I warned that there are differences in the pin out.

MMIDE can set pins 1-10 to:
analog in
digital in
digital out

MMIDE can set pins 11-14 to:
digital in
freq in
period in
count in
digital out
open collector

MMIDE can set pins 15-20 to:
digital in
digital out
open collector

I think it was misleading to say that I was "corrected" unless someone can show me that this pin out is now the same on the DM. Is it? The information I have says that this is not the case.

The MMIDE was made for the CGMMSTICK1. I provide it for free. I posted to let cmichaelcouch know this, rather than be disappointed to discover the difference on his own.

Please let me know if the DM now supports the pins and functions as stated above, because then MMIDE will work with the DM. Otherwise, as far as I am able to determine, my information is correct.

Edited by CircuitGizmos 2012-01-26

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centrex said

Hi Gizmos
Do you have a detail dwg showing the distance from the 1st hole to the edge of the board and from the last hole (no 30) to the edge, metric or imperial does not matter.
I want to see if the board will fit a project I have in mind.
Thanks
Cliff.

J1-1 is at 0.330 mil and 0.100 mil (x and y in inches)

J1-30 is at 3.230 mil and 0.100 mil

Board length is 3.500 mil.

Board height is 1.050 mil.

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I'll leave this for Glenn to decide, but my take is:

Whatever board you buy you need to consult its documentation in detail (and I really do mean in detail) to be able to use it.

Because you need to do that it's usually irrelevant what other boards do.

I've typically found that using the wrong documentation is a mistake. D'oh.

Personally I like having variants because I can choose the one that's most suitable for what I want to do.

About the only time the differences between variants matters is when porting software between them, which most actual users won't do, or when wanting to plug in a different board, which again most users won't do. I wouldn't expect either of those things necessarily to be easy or even possible. Maybe I have low expectations or something.

I'm not getting any value from corrections / re-corrections after about the first one on each side, if it's relevant (and preferably short). Carrying on with clarifications and the like is doing nothing useful for me. Long lists? Not unless I'm doing the software/hardware porting I just mentioned, and I'm not doing either of those and almost for sure won't be. If you have a long list, I'd prefer it to be on a vendor/support site and at most a URL stated here. (But Glenn gets to decide!)

The thing I don't want to happen is for Glenn to ban the whole lot of us.

JohnEdited by JohnS 2012-01-26

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JohnS said The thing I don't want to happen is for Glenn to ban the whole lot of us.

Nah that wont happen. I'll just occasionally delete or comment on any posts I feel could start an argument.

There are no sides here, I'm not interested in politicsiics. Its quite OK for someone to compare the different maximite platforms. If someone says "This wont work on a Duinomite because that pin is reserved for the SD card." or "The Maximite lacks a RTC, you might be better of using a Duinomoite for your project." then thats perfectly OK, its normal discussion and not meant to provoke an argument. It's when members think it is an attack and respond in such a way that the thread goes sour.

Anyway, back on topic.

Glenn

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