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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : In Memoriam: Thomas E. Kurtz, 1928–2024
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| PhenixRising Guru  Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 856 |
Goto or not. I am geeked and frustrated. We something totally awesome here. So John Deere and Apple are now getting flak because they don't want owners repairing their own stuff. Helloooo This has been happening with industrial controls since forever. But we still get "yeah but it's industrial" by the brainwashed. Do those electrons decide "hey we're industrial, let's be more reliable" This interpreter and low cost devices can totally blow away the big name bullsh*t who only hold their customers to randsom. Prove me wrong. I was there when the west finally adopted Statistical Process Control in 1987 and yet, in 2024 the dash lights up with all kinds of faults that require a paid service to rectify. Give me a freakin break. Point being that our Mites can kick megabuck Siemens, Bosch, Mitsubishi, Beckhoff, AB bullsh*t all day long  |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4222 |
Phenix, They are lauching. The manufacture thousends of systems for 25 usd, and sell for 500 or more. They challenge you to compete. Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6770 |
The argument goes that you aren't paying much for the hardware or the firmware, you are paying for the backup service. You can (in theory) contact them at virtually any time and they'll have someone who knows the equipment to get you out of a mess. That's the theory anyway. A lot of the industrial hardware is very well designed and rugged both electrically and mechanically but it has become cheapened at the bottom end, of course. Most of the "intelligent relay" controllers have a soldered in battery to keep the clock running and, in some cases, battery-backed RAM for things like timer and counter settings (sometime a Supercap but the no-power backup time is shorter). Basically, the shelf life of these controllers is about 10 years. Then again, a lot of the plant they are controlling only has a similar anticipated lifetime. You (broadly) get what you pay for. The fact that a little device like a Pico can do the job and is reliable isn't really the point. If the customer can be sure that if he can ring someone and get his machine fixed at short notice that's sometimes all he bothers about, but it's that customer confidence that sells Siemens, Mitsubishi, Telemecanique etc. The customer has been assured that his business is safe. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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